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Post by Postmodern Smoking on May 20, 2016 20:22:29 GMT
VIP Call to Action: #LordsVapeVote Writing CampaignPlease write to members of the House of Lords to ask them to support Lord Callanan’s fatal motion. There is a chance that the TPD in the UK could get overturned if enough emails and letters are sent over the next few days. Details of what to do and how to do it are here: vapersinpower.wordpress.com/lordsvapevote-writing-campaign/There are around 806 Peers who may, or may not, support Lord Callanan's fatal motion .... we need to get our message to them, to encourage them to do the right thing! If you can spare a few minutes, please help contact a few of them; the fatal motion is likely our last chance for common sense to prevail. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ......and if you haven't yet signed the petition it is HERE
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Post by VapingBad on May 20, 2016 21:18:45 GMT
This is going to be my focus this weekend, don't want to be here in a month, a year, for the rest of my life thinking I could of, should of done more if it fails.
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Post by Get Off My Cloud on May 20, 2016 21:29:57 GMT
I'm on it like a fly on poop.
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Post by jtc on May 20, 2016 21:32:08 GMT
I'm in
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Post by Postmodern Smoking on May 20, 2016 21:33:47 GMT
Please note that from one of the House of Lords websites: "if more than six copies of the same email are received, all will be deleted."
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Post by blaze on May 20, 2016 21:53:38 GMT
Now updated to include a spreadsheet so we can keep track of who has been written to, make sure we get them all!
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Post by blaze on May 20, 2016 23:34:19 GMT
I've had a bash - only sent it to six! Dear Sir I am writing to you because the House of Lords will shortly vote on something that is very dear to me, my health. In fact I would not be exaggerating to say, my life. You see, I used to smoke. I used rolling tobacco so it's hard to say how much, I'd use a pouch every 1-2 days, I guess that's ~20 cigarettes. And I did this for 23 years. About 3 years ago, I started to hear about electronic cigarettes, I like gadgets and new things so I thought I'd try one – I wasn't trying to give up smoking, I just thought I'd give them a go. It was amazing, straight away I preferred it. It took me about a month to get one with enough battery power to last but instantly, if I had the choice, it was that which I'd reach for. These things are an incredible invention, the science is in – they are much, much safer (https://www.rcplondon.ac.uk/projects/outputs/nicotine-without-smoke-tobacco-harm-reduction-0), they are not, for new users, addictive, and, they satisfy whatever it was in me that made me smoke. They have created an incredible fuss in the Public Health community though, I think many were just scared of the unknown – one of the consequences is the drafting, and now enacting of the rules which pretty much destroy the ecig market. They have made the rules so burdensome that even now, after the law has nominally come into force in the UK. there is no way to notify products so they can be sold. This letter to No. 10 gives a flavour of the mess which has been made: nnalliance.org/images/resources/NNAPMMay2016.pdfIt is a public health disaster, lives will be lost if it is allowed to continue, and the Lords has a chance to stop it. Lord Callanan has tabled this motion: “to move that a Humble Address be presented to Her Majesty praying that the Tobacco and Related Products Regulations 2016, laid before the House on 22 April, be annulled on the grounds that its restrictions on product choice and advertising of vaping devices were devised before evidence had accumulated that vaping was enabling many people to quit smoking, run counter to advice from the Royal College of Physicians to promote vaping and are so severe that they could force vapers back to smoking and create a black market with harmful products (SI 2015/507).” I will not comply with the law if it goes forward, I cannot. I really do not want to smoke again – I will turn to the black market, I don't see how that is making me safer? I don't see how that is helping me. Please support Lord Callanan, this law is going to cause harm, it must be stopped! If you would like any further information, anything, please do not hesitate to get in touch.
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Post by Postmodern Smoking on May 20, 2016 23:40:30 GMT
I've had a bash - only sent it to six! You might get away with sending to another 6 tomorrow, Sunday? .... then Monday.... etc. I guess it all depends on their anti-spam software . [ETA] - That doesn't look too hard to do.... come on folks, lets do our bit, we probably won't have another chance.
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Post by blaze on May 20, 2016 23:47:33 GMT
From the email, I think the 6 thing is real people for the emails that don't go directly from the site. I've got 2 more to go
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Post by Postmodern Smoking on May 20, 2016 23:55:00 GMT
From the email, I think the 6 thing is real people for the emails that don't go directly from the site. I've got 2 more to go I don't understand what you've written. You've sent to 6 (previous post), but say 2 more to go. Are you saying that you can't send more tomorrow or think not? (We don't want a load of emails in their spam folder!)
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Post by calnorth on May 21, 2016 7:20:21 GMT
Crikey...Callanan has a BSc in Electrical & Electronic Eng and worked for S&N Breweries for 12 years. However, even with Ridley/Lawson et al, I suspect there's too many awkward people (male/female) in that place too counter them. Common sense is not often apparent...not from what I've seen anyway. Too many of them have been jammed in there to disrupt the people of UK.
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Post by calnorth on May 21, 2016 7:50:11 GMT
Dear Lord Tebbit,
Ref: Vaping and the Tobacco Products Directive (TPD) - 2016
I suspect you have been contacted on this topic from a number of vapers. As far as I can see a good solution to a massive problem has emerged as regards smoking and is e-cigarettes in various forms. A definite gateway out of smoking and that is working for many in UK and elsewhere.
However, it is to be severely hampered by this TPD. Stupidly so in my view and yet tobacco smoking is to continue. A critical opportunity exists with vaping to substantially reduce smoking.
I am sure you are aware of Matt Ridley and Martin Callanans efforts in the HoL to explain this issue and overturn the TPD. May I and others ask that you support them. I'm pretty sure you do because its a matter of common sense.
I started smoking in the RAF at age 16...dumb stuff really! I seem to have survived well to age 72...lucky indeed. I really want to see tobacco smoking banned and which always was common sense.
Yours sincerely,
Colin E
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Post by striker42 on May 21, 2016 8:20:59 GMT
How do you find out where to send it. Excuse my stupidity, but I'm just finished a 14 hour nightshift and my brain is slowly giving up the will to carry on.
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Post by calnorth on May 21, 2016 8:25:27 GMT
I have put this on John Redwoods blog this am...if he publishes it?
"Talking about Health…and the NHS burden due to smoking tobacco.
The EU has forced the Tobacco Products Directive (TPD) upon us (20/5/16)…with the aid of some in Govt etc. Its about limiting tobacco smoking but not banning it. It also damages vaping which is a critical way out of smoking. Tobacco needs to be banned, but they avoid that and create other problems with regard to vaping.
Matt Ridley and Martin Callanan in the HoL are moving to over turn it. Can I ask that this site shows the following link which asks people to contact any Lord in an effort to help Matt and Martin.
Details of what to do and how to do it are here: vapersinpower.wordpress.com/lordsvapevote-writing-campaign/
Thank You…its also one in the eye of the EU if over turned and that is very important!"
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Post by calnorth on May 21, 2016 8:27:58 GMT
How do you find out where to send it. Excuse my stupidity, but I'm just finished a 14 hour nightshift and my brain is slowly giving up the will to carry on. go here striker42vapersinpower.wordpress.com/lordsvapevote-writing-campaign/ That links to the list of Lords that you can select from and then it links to that Lords official email/messaging page. Write message and send
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