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Post by Bob on May 27, 2016 16:06:15 GMT
any of use with an ounce of common sense knew this all along - at least it's now in the open think all those in the EU that put Article 20 in motion need sacking
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 14:23:06 GMT
Good find, but no surprise whatsoever. It would be nice to think that someone, somewhere in a government would remember that they are elected by citizens and do something about this. But I doubt it. Corporations are just too rich and too powerful today. EDIT - I might be cynic, but this information has been in the public domain for some time.
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Post by monty on May 30, 2016 17:07:59 GMT
Good spot. I'd be grateful to anyone who could tell me how to open a page in google translate - I use firefox.
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Post by Ron on May 30, 2016 17:42:20 GMT
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Scandal in sight? The pharmaceutical industry has bribed politicians to discredit the electronic cigarette May 18, 2016 7276 social shares Pfizer and GlaxoSmithKline (GSK), two of the largest pharmaceutical companies have spent millions of euros in recent years to make the wrong pub electronic cigarette. Especially with organizations and medical associations. And that includes the "prestigious" American Thoracic Society (ATS), which includes more than 15,000 lung specialists worldwide. But that's not all! Some politicians may also be involved. The pharmaceutical lobby would have overpowered and some lawmakers paid for it tightening their laws against electronic cigarettes. The influence of large pharmaceutical companies on governments and the European Commission, had already been revealed by Bloomberg in February. Explicit emails strongly advised them to adopt strict laws in relation to the electronic cigarette. Including GSK and Johnson & Johnson. Today, it seems that these industrial giants have also donated millions of euros for medical organizations and lobbies to make believe that the e-cigarette was as bad for health as smoking.
Independent studies say the opposite, however. The Royal College of Physicians (RCP), the oldest medical association and most respected in the world, recently published a 200-page report to end the nonsense that are told about this "cigarette".
"Despite misconceptions on the subject," concludes this huge report, there is no evidence that electronic cigarettes are as harmful to health as cigarettes called "regular." On the contrary, there is not even any evidence that they are dangerous at all.
"Saving millions of lives" "People should not worry," the researchers said, "smoking electronic cigarettes, actively or passively, poses no health risk." Promote electronic smoking among smokers, according to the Royal College of Physicians (RCP), would contribute "tremendously" in reducing the mortality rate.
Furthermore, according to the SPC always, there is no evidence that electronic cigarettes grow nonsmokers to get started. In contrast again. They are "only beneficial to encourage smokers to quit." According to Professor John Britton, head of the advisory group on tobacco RCP: "It is time to stop the controversy and speculation on electronic smoking What matters is that it helps people stop us.. have the opportunity to save millions of lives. "
Bad news for the pharmaceutical lobby This study suggests that the electronic cigarette is now the most effective way to fight against tobacco addiction. And that of course it annoys a lot of pharmaceutical manufacturers . Well yes, they do not just sell nicotine patches or pills to make you quit. They also spend a lot of money for selling drugs. Drugs used to treat those symptoms of smoking.
It seems that even politicians are wet in this case. The pharmaceutical industry has used all its financial power to make laws binding vote. Including the United States, o ù seven Democratic senators were bribed to death with hundreds of thousands of euros . Pfizer, Teva Pharmaceuticals and CVS are cited. This also affects Europe: Martin Callanan, a British Conservative politician and former MEP, admitted that European directives on e-cigarettes have been developed under the pressure of the pharmaceutical sector . "The answer I received when I raised this problem is always the same: the drug industry has too much to lose if the e-cigarette came to supplant or even replace the patches or chewing gum to nicotine, "he declared.
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Post by car147 on May 30, 2016 18:08:35 GMT
In light of these allegations I hope they get the book thrown at them, it really makes you wonder what else these people in power are up to, because if they can do this, they are capable of anything!
but more than likely they will walk away from it with not even an inquiry.
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Post by yahoo2u2 on May 30, 2016 21:23:24 GMT
Although on the face of it, we Joe Public pay these people, its not a paid job really, its the access to other income steams that they are after. We as vaper have said all along that something was not correct with the TPD and the flood of lies being fed to the public for months leading upto the law being passed.
Once that had happened then these stories went and ecigs were now good news for smokers.
This needs forwarding to all newspapers and other news agencies.
WTF do these people think they are doing.
BASTARDS and corrupt ones at that
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Post by monty on May 31, 2016 22:09:46 GMT
From memory (ie I might be wrong) there has only ever been one court case where a pharmaceutical company has been fined so heavily for bribes that it might think twice about doing it again in the same country - it was in China. For the rest of the world, fines are something that they factor in and the costs of fines is not a deterrent in comparison to the potential losses if most smokers become vapers. Addicts are a captive target.
Being the mild mannered non-reactionary that I am, I'd like to see fines in the tens of billions and charges of conspiracy to commit genocide.
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