I did it again!

[snow]

You mixers are going to be in big trouble if I get seriously into this diy lark .... I've just mixed up 100 ml each of Joose Juice Soft Mint, NomNomz Monkey Brek & Nomnomz Irish Cocoa @30%  and then 10ml each of Capella Apricot at 30%ish cos I spilled some then added a bit more without measuring lol  Capella Buttercream @30% annnnnddd 10ml of Apricot & Buttercream somewhere in the 30% margin though may have a bit more of one than tother flavouring as I wasn't concentrating lol  No idea if the single flavoured Apricot or Butter cream will be vapeable but if not and the mixed one is then I'll bung them together or I can use them in with some vanilla custard or the end of bottle mix.  I was a lot less cackhanded than the last time and made far less mess but still way too cackhanded and clumsy to risk anything but the premixed nic base I am using at the moment. However thats 330 ml of juice now steeping in the cupboard for less than buying ready mixed would have cost me. 

[jtc]

Well done snow
30% flavouring though?
You must like very strong flavours

[Lee]

Next weeks mixing question, how do I remove these hairs from my chest

[jtc]

Snow has a hairy chest?

[Lee]

Mixing like that will put hairs there

[snow]

I do like strong flavours yes - I've always bought the Soft Mint at 20% stronger (which I assume is 30%) and I've mixed it previously at 30% and love it. I like the premixed Irish Cocoa & Monkey Brek but when I mixed my own last time I did some at 25% and some at 30% and its the 30% Monkey Brek I'm vaping at the moment and love so just went for 30% with the Irish Cocoa as I do find the flavour just a little milder than I like. Given that I do like them strong I decided sod it 30% for the new ones too.

[calnorth]

Aug 8, 2016 16:29:14 GMT snow said:

I do like strong flavours yes - I've always bought the Soft Mint at 20% stronger (which I assume is 30%) and I've mixed it previously at 30% and love it. I like the premixed Irish Cocoa & Monkey Brek but when I mixed my own last time I did some at 25% and some at 30% and its the 30% Monkey Brek I'm vaping at the moment and love so just went for 30% with the Irish Cocoa as I do find the flavour just a little milder than I like. Given that I do like them strong I decided sod it 30% for the new ones too.

Interesting that you reported this snow...very interesting indeed.

I've been mixing for about 6 months and I'm not impressed with the "as advertised" usage levels..circa 15% max for most concs. In fact I tried some mixes with the usual suspects of cheesecake, custard and so on. So those levels on recommended mixes would be lower than 15%. Result is not what I see many folk yell about and mostly too sweet?

After steeping for a month etc...the single concs and especially fruits taste the same...sort of perfume bubblegum and the mixes are...lets say not much at all.

I'll ramp up to your 25% - 30% I think.

Of course it maybe due to my beer, cider and garden fruit addiction and not necessarily in that order. They taste good...not through an SS tank though!

So far...concs for the money, not impressed at all. Its DarkStar, Capella, FA and all that stuff.

[snow]

Its possible that I prefer it stronger as I use a 70/30 VG/PG base mix and the flavours are VG as far as I'm aware so that would up the VG level of my finished product and its PG that carries the flavour as I understand it.

[calnorth]

Aug 8, 2016 16:54:55 GMT snow said:

Its possible that I prefer it stronger as I use a 70/30 VG/PG base mix and the flavours are VG as far as I'm aware so that would up the VG level of my finished product and its PG that carries the flavour as I understand it.

I've been at 70P/30V up until last week. Now I'm on 60P/40V but will take a few weeks to detect anything. No good fiddling with more than 1 variable...at one time. See if the VG theory for flavour works on current conc levels.

[Deleted]

Aug 8, 2016 16:54:55 GMT snow said:

Its possible that I prefer it stronger as I use a 70/30 VG/PG base mix and the flavours are VG as far as I'm aware so that would up the VG level of my finished product and its PG that carries the flavour as I understand it.

Generally speaking, most flavour concentrates are PG based.

[Perpetua]

30% . . . . . my level of flavouring snow!

The NomNomz I think you'll find absolutely fine at that ratio, nice and tasty to suit how you like your vapes - Apricot and Buttercream may possibly be a little less suitable. But you don't know until you try . . . . if they are too overpowering, then it's a lesson learnt for next time around.

As @yinyang says, the vast majority of concentrates are PG based - so you take that into your overall PG ratio.

[jtc]

And if too strong snow you can always add more pg/vg to thin it down

[snow]

Aug 8, 2016 17:59:26 GMT Perpetua said:

30% . . . . . my level of flavouring snow !

The NomNomz I think you'll find absolutely fine at that ratio, nice and tasty to suit how you like your vapes - Apricot and Buttercream may possibly be a little less suitable. But you don't know until you try . . . . if they are too overpowering, then it's a lesson learnt for next time around.

As @yinyang says, the vast majority of concentrates are PG based - so you take that into your overall PG ratio.

I finally got round to trying the Apricot & Buttercream - can't believe I mixed this in August and then just left it there    sooo I can report that after almost 6 months of steeping   its........... fanflippingtastic!! Now it tastes nothing at all like Apricot or Buttercream   in fact to me it tastes almost exactly like Refreshers (the sweets) sherberty fruity kind of flavour but stunning even if I do say so myself - talk about a happy accident just miffed that I only made up 10 ml  and will now have to get mixing in larger quantities and hopefully it doesn't actually need to steep for 6 months to taste this good.  

Looking forward to trying the plain Apricot and the plain Buttercream now 

[jtc]

Ahahahaha refreshers
The thing about vg not carrying flavours snow I don't think I agree.
I think it's just that vg takes longer to steep and as I always make max vg I don't touch my new mixes for 2 months after mixing.It doesn't apply to every juice but rather than keep testing I just use 8 weeks as my rule of thumb.
I know some juices lose flavour on long steeps, but if that happens then that juice fails for me. I like to be able to leave them as long as I want and still the juice be yummy

[monty]

Aug 8, 2016 16:43:19 GMT calnorth said:

After steeping for a month etc...the single concs and especially fruits taste the same.

Try the fruits without any steeping.