Coil Safety Question

[j7nglegusset]

Okay, after your kind advice I bought an evic vtc mini. It comes with a nickel coil and a titanium coil. I have read a few articles and watched some YouTube stuff where people are saying nickel coils can produce toxins. Also seen similar criticisms of Titanium though, but people seem slightly less concerned about Ti. I realise this may be a difficult and possibly contentious question but is there any consensus on what is the safest coil material that will be compatible with my mod? Thanks.

[VapingBad]

I don't believe there are any issues at vaping temperatures, I vaped Ni exclusively for about 18 months with no ill effects and I have a nickel allergy, I vape Ti most days most days again with no issues. With Ti there is a risk if you dry-fire your coils and get them to glow bright.

[MrDJ]

just a quick heads up that has to be mentioned as im seeing more and more new vapers using Ni and Ti in wattage mode but its very important to mention these coils must ONLY be used in TC temperature control mode and NOT wattage mode.

sadly new starter kits are coming with TC coils included and their is just not enough info given out especially by b&m stores lately as they just want to make a sale.

[VapingBad]

Sorry that is another one of those untrue truisms unless you are using an unregulated or VV mod and don't knows ohms law. As Ni and Ti heat their resistance raises so if your mod supplies a steady voltage the heat produced will decrease, if you mod is a proper VW it will just provide the power set so they are no more dangerous than any other type of coil. You just need to set the power sensibly. I agree that they should not be used in power mode because it is a waist, but it is not more dangerous. I can also see the possibility of user error with VV mods if the user doesn't notice they are fitting a much lower res, but I can't think of any current VV mods.

[MrDJ]

Nov 12, 2016 16:18:45 GMT VapingBad said:

Sorry that is another one of those untrue truisms unless you are using an unregulated or VV mod and don't knows ohms law. As Ni and Ti heat their resistance raises so if your mod supplies a steady voltage the heat produced will decrease, if you mod is a proper VW it will just provide the power set so they are no more dangerous than any other type of coil. You just need to set the power sensibly. I agree that they should not be used in power mode because it is a waist, but it is not more dangerous. I can also see the possibility of user error with VV mods if the user doesn't notice they are fitting a much lower res, but I can't think of any current VV mods.

interesting.
so all the reports of never using a nickel or titanium coil in wattage mode are false then.
what has always been reported on all the forums is
kanthal is for wattage mode only
SS stailess steel can be used in both wattage and TC mode
Ni200 and Ti must only be used in TC mode.

back when tc first hit our shores and a high powered mod was 50watts there was no info what so ever out there.
i had a istick40TC and won a freemax starre pro tank which came with Ni coils.
ran fine until my battery died and i automatically took the tank off without think and put it on my istick50 and carried on in wattage mode.
then i start getting messages its very dangerous using that coil in wattage mode and stop immediately etc etc

[decoy]

is all I'm saying about ti
and ni do give off nasty chems IF over powered

[djs]

I don't find TC factory coils work properly, so I don't have these worries.
I have used all the standard metals/coils and in the last few weeks I've used both the Ni and Ti Joyetech premade factory coils in the Tron and they're rubbish as well.

Personally, I don't see the point in using a factory TC coil, going to the trouble of all the 'jazz' and then basically getting a pathetic reduced-power vape.
In my opinion, better to vape at 20/30/50 watts with Kanthal or Stainless Steel and enjoy that than pretend I'm vaping at 550 degrees with a setting of x amount of watts, when actually all that's going on is the mod is reducing me to 10 watts-worth of unsatisfying vape.

Ooh, yes... that's a rant.

[j7nglegusset]

Nov 12, 2016 17:33:47 GMT djs said:

I don't find TC factory coils work properly, so I don't have these worries.
I have used all the standard metals/coils and in the last few weeks I've used both the Ni and Ti Joyetech premade factory coils in the Tron and they're rubbish as well.

Personally, I don't see the point in using a factory TC coil, going to the trouble of all the 'jazz' and then basically getting a pathetic reduced-power vape.
In my opinion, better to vape at 20/30/50 watts with Kanthal or Stainless Steel and enjoy that than pretend I'm vaping at 550 degrees with a setting of x amount of watts, when actually all that's going on is the mod is reducing me to 10 watts-worth of unsatisfying vape.

Ooh, yes... that's a rant.

Okay, how do I get a kanthal or ss coil for my evic vtc mini? Or would I need to rebuild one myself?

[djs]

Nov 12, 2016 18:22:05 GMT j7nglegusset said:

Okay, how do I get a kanthal or ss coil for my evic vtc mini? Or would I need to rebuild one myself?

Most off-the-shelf coils with medium resistances (atomizer replacement heads around 0.3-1.5ohms) are Kanthal.

(well, they were until the industry started to get ahead of itself)

What tank do you have?

Look on Joyetech at what is available. SS is very good i.m.o. and can be used in either.

[VapingBad]

Nov 12, 2016 17:28:13 GMT MrDJ said:

Nov 12, 2016 16:18:45 GMT VapingBad said:

Sorry that is another one of those untrue truisms unless you are using an unregulated or VV mod and don't knows ohms law. As Ni and Ti heat their resistance raises so if your mod supplies a steady voltage the heat produced will decrease, if you mod is a proper VW it will just provide the power set so they are no more dangerous than any other type of coil. You just need to set the power sensibly. I agree that they should not be used in power mode because it is a waist, but it is not more dangerous. I can also see the possibility of user error with VV mods if the user doesn't notice they are fitting a much lower res, but I can't think of any current VV mods.

interesting.
so all the reports of never using a nickel or titanium coil in wattage mode are false then.
what has always been reported on all the forums is
kanthal is for wattage mode only
SS stailess steel can be used in both wattage and TC mode
Ni200 and Ti must only be used in TC mode.

back when tc first hit our shores and a high powered mod was 50watts there was no info what so ever out there.
i had a istick40TC and won a freemax starre pro tank which came with Ni coils.
ran fine until my battery died and i automatically took the tank off without think and put it on my istick50 and carried on in wattage mode.
then i start getting messages its very dangerous using that coil in wattage mode and stop immediately etc etc

Not if wattage control is working and you have not set crazy watts, but iSticks maybe it could regulate for a coils as low a Ni and overpowered it, but it should just not fire with an ohms too low warning.  I would never recommend people use Ni or Ti without temp limiting, but it shouldn't get any hotter than a kanthal coil.

[j7nglegusset]

Nov 12, 2016 18:35:12 GMT djs said:

Nov 12, 2016 18:22:05 GMT j7nglegusset said:

What tank do you have?

eGo ONE Mega VT Atomizer Tank 

I think it uses the CL type atomizer heads.

[djs]

Nov 12, 2016 22:27:18 GMT j7nglegusset said:

Nov 12, 2016 18:35:12 GMT djs said:

What tank do you have?

eGo ONE Mega VT Atomizer Tank 

I think it uses the CL type atomizer heads.

Yes. Those are them, the CLR Ti and Ni are not good. I would call them 'wrong'....

I have been using the CLR Rebuildable recently and they seem to improve after re-wicking. How strange...

[decoy]

when you go in to the shop to buy them just ask what coils they have for your tank and they should have some ss ones
the other thing is how you vape
do you mtl(mouth to lung)ie like a ciggy
or do you lh(lung hit)ie breath it striate in
as there are diff type of coils for this as well
just let them know in the shop and they should give you the right ones

[Get Off My Cloud]

Just Google for "Joyetch CL Coils" use the filter tools to list UK sites you'll find a load of places sell them.
If you want to use TC you'll need either Ti or Ni ones if you just use normal power mode you want the Kanthal ones.
Or you could buy the CLR coils which you can rewick and rebuild yourself if you fancy having a go.
Loads of tutorial videos on YT

[jtc]

Kanthal all the time for me.
Never see a dry hit tbh and even when I'm vaping in the dark I can taste it as soon as it's getting there.
It's a shame but imo tc is a good idea but too finicky even with a DNA chip is unstable, and I've tried it a lot with different tanks/wires.
I know some people are happy with tc and that's great but not for me.
A couple of kanthal parallel claptons and 100w is my adv now and it never fails me