Got Hit With VAT Charge On FT Parcel

[tsoko]

I have posted

[car147]

Done

[Perpetua]

Just had a catch up on your thread Get Off My Cloud . . . . dear me there are some uncouth berks who have appeared on it, shooting their mouths off!

This situation doesn't even affect them, if it did - they might feel differently.

[buggritt]

The troubling thing for me is that asking for a false price on the packet is breaking the law. We can't just choose to be law abiding when it suits us.
The only problem with the system of collecting VAT is I can't find any info on how to pay the tax up front, if it's possible at all, and avoiding the collection fee.

[dalealan]

Jan 15, 2017 7:15:57 GMT Perpetua said:

Just had a catch up on your thread Get Off My Cloud . . . . dear me there are some uncouth berks who have appeared on it, shooting their mouths off!

This situation doesn't even affect them, if it did - they might feel differently.

Typical responses on fasttech Perpetua it's full of f@&kwits and trolls. Shame there's no moderation. It's normally the same few gimps trying to get a response. Keyboard warriors piss me off.

[Deleted]

Jan 15, 2017 9:00:28 GMT buggritt said:

The troubling thing for me is that asking for a false price on the packet is breaking the law. We can't just choose to be law abiding when it suits us.
The only problem with the system of collecting VAT is I can't find any info on how to pay the tax up front, if it's possible at all, and avoiding the collection fee.

Many years ago I bought a quite expensive camera from USA. When it arrived in UK, customs contacted me direct and informed me how much duty was due. This had to be paid before the package was released and delivered. IIRC, there was no Royal Mail involvement or charges.

[djs]

Jan 15, 2017 9:00:28 GMT buggritt said:

The troubling thing for me is that asking for a false price on the packet is breaking the law. We can't just choose to be law abiding when it suits us.
The only problem with the system of collecting VAT is I can't find any info on how to pay the tax up front, if it's possible at all, and avoiding the collection fee.

Two excellent comments.

Who says what the 'value' of an item is. Value needn't necessarily be the price paid in strict legal terms.

Is the value different if the item is 1) Wholesale, 2) from China or 3) bought in the UK (maybe not...)

If Fasttech sell a product for $20, it could be a $12 product that would cost $30 (equivalent) bought in the UK. The 'value' of that item could be expressed as $12.

[striker42]

FWIW Get Off My Cloud, I pitched up a post on the Fasttech forum and............................................managed to keep it civilised.............................................at the moment.

[Get Off My Cloud]

Well i kinda figured sod all would be done here is the latest reply from staff.

Hello, dr00g. I forgot to mention in last reply that we didn't set the default value as $20. And according to the replies, $17 is not working. There will be other problems generated.

Our low value declaration is for customers' convenience. But no matter how we set it, we cannot meet everyone's sanctification.

To bring our customers' inconvenience is the last thing we want to see. But temporarily, we cannot come up a better idea. So we still would like to suggest here that if you, including other customers, have any special request on declaration. Please create a support ticket or do live chat with us. We will arrange for you.

Thanks in advance for your understanding.

So that's it folks either wait until the pound rises again against the dollar before you shop at FT or if you do shop at FT be prepared for the possibility of getting stung by HMRC and Royal Mail for £11+ on each package.
Take note that even if you do take their advice and open a ticket requesting a lower declared value there is no guarantee that they will actually do it, i saw at least one person on that thread say they asked FT to mark their package at $15 and it came marked as $20.

Also either this staff member or their colleague is is lying because the staff member i spoke to in my support ticket said they do use $20 as a default value if the goods are over $20.


My advice would be if you're going to shop there while the pound is still low make the order as large as possible, it's better to pay £11 in fees on goods worth £100 than goods worth £15 right?
I would still also follow their advice and make a manual request on each order too but just don't assume they will actually do it even if they say they will.

[striker42]

Jan 16, 2017 6:39:28 GMT Get Off My Cloud said:

Well i kinda figured sod all would be done here is the latest reply from staff.

Hello, dr00g. I forgot to mention in last reply that we didn't set the default value as $20. And according to the replies, $17 is not working. There will be other problems generated.

Our low value declaration is for customers' convenience. But no matter how we set it, we cannot meet everyone's sanctification.

To bring our customers' inconvenience is the last thing we want to see. But temporarily, we cannot come up a better idea. So we still would like to suggest here that if you, including other customers, have any special request on declaration. Please create a support ticket or do live chat with us. We will arrange for you.

Thanks in advance for your understanding.

So that's it folks either wait until the pound rises again against the dollar before you shop at FT or if you do shop at FT be prepared for the possibility of getting stung by HMRC and Royal Mail for £11+ on each package.
Take note that even if you do take their advice and open a ticket requesting a lower declared value there is no guarantee that they will actually do it, i saw at least one person on that thread say they asked FT to mark their package at $15 and it came marked as $20.

Also either this staff member or their colleague is is lying because the staff member i spoke to in my support ticket said they do use $20 as a default value if the goods are over $20.


My advice would be if you're going to shop there while the pound is still low make the order as large as possible, it's better to pay £11 in fees on goods worth £100 than goods worth £15 right?
I would still also follow their advice and make a manual request on each order too but just don't assume they will actually do it even if they say they will.

I know I might not be the sharpest pencil in the box..................................but, if "we" and I might be wrong, but assuming "we" means Fasstech in the context of the underlined statement, did not set the limit of twenty bucks, who did ? Fobbed off comes to mind. (polite way of being fed bullshit)

[Lee]

The keyboard hero's on ft, will be the same ones that were crying when a clone was released with "made in USA" etched on it
They were demanding that the etching was removed etc etc

[calnorth]

Just received a $25 Kangertech Subox mod C kit from Gearbest using Yodel. Shipped from China 8 days ago with 97p express thingy paid. GB show a pic of the package sitting on their weigh scales on my Account/Shipping page. It has two large bar codes on its label and is exactly what I received. No EU warning...no origin cost declaration. Just the bar coding. I suspect that data in the bar code must provide the export details. So I would never know what had been declared until HMRC wacked it? No VAT/Handling charge on this....gr8!

[car147]

Just received another parcel from FT (Frankie Clone $19.22 on package) all ok with Singapore Post

[aaront903]

Jan 16, 2017 11:37:45 GMT car147 said:

Just received another parcel from FT (Frankie Clone $19.22 on package) all ok with Singapore Post

may I ask when it was shipped please as still waiting on mine via same post

[majorhazzard]

Just received a Lost Vaper Therion 166.. no VAT charges :-)