A first venture into TC - some advice please!

[chykensa]

Hi all,
I have recently treated myself to a new mod which (like others that I have) is equipped for Temperature Control. I have absolutely no previous experience of TC, and would like some advice before I start.

First of all, I have some SS316 .6 22/3 AWG and have some really punchy 8-wrap coils installed in a Griffin. Could I use these for TC, or do my coils have to be spaced as opposed to Microcoils, touching, which these are.
Secondly, the User Manual with the new mod is less than helpful for novice TC-ers, and it assumes that you know what you are doing already! I know that I need to 'initialise' my coil, at room temperature, before starting to use it, but what else do I need to set on the mod. I presume a mid-range temp would be good to start with?
Lastly, once the temperature and resistance is set, do I change watts as per VW vaping, or how can I adjust the power reaching the coil.

I understand that using TC is a bit like having cruise control, in that the coil temperature is maintained regardless of the change in resistance as the coil heats up, but am I missing something else?

Your advice and help would be gratefully received, as always!

P.S. the mod is a Voopoo Drag

[Get Off My Cloud]

My advice don't bother, just stick the thing in wattage mode and have at it.
Seriously it's a waste of time, if you know how to set up and wick your atty right and remember to fill the tank or drip you aren't going to be getting any dry hits and you know from just personal taste how warm or cool a vape you like and can set that perfectly well to taste with wattage.

[chykensa]

Jan 19, 2018 18:56:19 GMT Get Off My Cloud said:

My advice don't bother, just stick the thing in wattage mode and have at it.
Seriously it's a waste of time, if you know how to set up and wick your atty right and remember to fill the tank or drip you aren't going to be getting any dry hits and you know from just personal taste how warm or cool a vape you like and can set that perfectly well to taste with wattage.

Thanks Get Off My Cloud, just the sort of advice I like - straight to the point!
I must admit that I'm only interested in order to give it a fair try so that I know what I'm missing (or not, as the case may be!).
I've survived 5.5 years of long without TC, but with so many mods now equipped I am just wondering why 😀

[VapingBad]

Couldn't imagine vaping without TC, well I could, I just won't go there it's like going back to instant coffee after getting used to the real thing for me, ymmv.

With TC and ss you need a decent mod, not tried a non Evolve since the Evic and the Evic was not in the same league, better than the SX350, but more like a prototype vape quality wise than a retail product. You need solid connection, atty and 510, screw everything down as tight as you can, I use the plastic spanner things to fit my tanks and really crank them down, nickel and Ti are more forgiving, but the res change is so small in ss. EScribe device monitor was very useful to see what is going on, but for years now I just make the coils fit them, wick them and vape and only need that when doing different like the flat ss Clapton I have on one mod. Even then I didn't need them, but they show how I use 10 times the power at first from cold, 5 times at first when warm, then it tapers off giving a great vape from the moment I press the button to the moment I release and not hearing it keep boiling after the button is released.

[leroy4bz]

IMHO It’s a right pain and really not worth the bother. I have 2 evolve chip mods, and I’ve tried all permutations, but in the end went back to standard watts. I know what you mean about wanting to try, if it’s got TC it’s natural you’ll want to try it. I’ll be interested how you get on. Good luck, let the faffing begin.

[chykensa]

Jan 20, 2018 10:40:29 GMT leroy4bz said:

I’ll be interested how you get on. Good luck, let the faffing begin.

Haha, don't hold your breath, I'm quite happy with watts, and judging by the comments here so far, I'll not be in a hurry to get faffing!

[VapingBad]

Only a few percent more faff than non temp control at first then exactly the same as any rebuildable with normal single wire or twisted coils, clapton types are a challenge, but I find flat claptons work well out of the box. Honestly, I just make a pair of coils, fit them, wick them and vape, no special temp control steps other than non touching coils and solid clean connections. Neither of which are TC only, but I guess from the days of cheap plated brass connectors I often see people advising not to tighten your tank too much because it killed cheap 510 sockets and we didn't have cheap tools to undo tight tanks, but electricity likes a good connection and kit is far better these days.

It has always been a problem some people feel the need to reply to threads asking how with don't, you shouldn't be made to feel like it is the wrong thing to do if you fancy a go just because they failed. Not saying they have bad intentions and I have felt like that about some tanks, but what would you think it you were asking about starting with rebuilding or mixing, it would be out of place IMO. Plus there has been so much poor advise on the internet it makes it seem like there is a mountain to climb when if you can do rebuildables it's easy if you have a decent set up.

[charliehorse]

Must say I haven't had any great problems using TC with 316 stainless. Spaced coil and off you go.

The DNA boards seem to give the best experience but even the pico does a reasonable job of it given the price difference.
Very handy when using a dripper to avoid the dry hit but ive also got a kayfun v3 mini clone with ss on the go with no problem for everyday use.
If you fancy tring it chykensa then give it a go is what I say

[phtumshk]

I got this ready for ya.
Been there done that got the T shirt.
LOL.
Good luck though you might crack it.

[sydsut]

It's interesting but the only company who went on manufacturing expensive Mods without TC, and who consistently pooh-poohed TC, eventually went bust. I think it's time to ask the Moderators if we TC users could have our own thread. So Perpetua or Chrissie could you please arrange this.

[VapingBad]

Jan 20, 2018 23:22:08 GMT phtumshk said:

I got this ready for ya.
Been there done that got the T shirt.
LOL.
Good luck though you might crack it.

Fine, but why do care so much what others do the thread was not about should he try tc, plenty of room for everybody in the vaporsphere, you wouldn't make a post like that about MTL or sqonking.  I think ppl using unregulated mods now that regulateds go into the hundreds of watts would benefit from a mentor, but I don't spam their threads and am very happy they are having a good time not smoking.

(Actually it reminds me of some self righteous peoples reaction to vaping with ss mesh, they couldn't get it to work or just didn't like it and seemed to need to tell others they were doomed if they asked for tips on how to do it.)

[phtumshk]

Jan 21, 2018 0:29:45 GMT VapingBad said:

Jan 20, 2018 23:22:08 GMT phtumshk said:

I got this ready for ya.
Been there done that got the T shirt.
LOL.
Good luck though you might crack it.

Fine, but why do care so much what others do the thread was not about should he try tc, plenty of room for everybody in the vaporsphere, you wouldn't make a post like that about MTL or sqonking.  I think ppl using unregulated mods now that regulateds go into the hundreds of watts would benefit from a mentor, but I don't spam their threads and am very happy they are having a good time not smoking.

(Actually it reminds me of some self righteous peoples reaction to vaping with ss mesh, they couldn't get it to work or just didn't like it and seemed to need to tell others they were doomed if they asked for tips on how to do it.)

Er OK, cheers for that.

[Perpetua]

Jan 21, 2018 0:08:36 GMT sydsut said:

 I think it's time to ask the Moderators if we TC users could have our own thread. So Perpetua or Chrissie could you please arrange this.

No problem sydsut if you and other TC users would like one . . . . thinking that a specific Temperature Control Board is what you have in mind?

( We can then move any threads there on the topic to make it easier for reference. )

And as an aside, it will always be horses for courses in our vaping world which is what makes it so wonderful, there's something in it for everyone whatever their preferences incline to.

[buggritt]

Jan 20, 2018 23:20:03 GMT charliehorse said:

The DNA boards seem to give the best experience but even the pico does a reasonable job of it

Eleaf mods with Arctic Fox firmware makes them better than reasonable.

[joeten]

chykensa it won't hurt to give it a go, if it's for you great and if not then that's great too at least you know and some point in the future you might have something else which gives you the urge to revisit at which point your better informed than the last time.