San Francisco Bans Flavors!

[stu1873]

San Francisco has voted overwhelmingly for an outright ban on all flavored e-liquids, a move which could be mimicked across the country.

The US city will now see menthol cigarettes and all flavored tobacco-related products outlawed from sale in one of the strictest anti-vaping regulations ever seen in the western world

Residents had turned out to vote yesterday (Tuesday) after the city’s Board of Supervisors last year approved a total ban on flavoured tobacco products, including e-liquids.

It had been taken to the public ballot after tobacco company RJ Reynolds organised a petition – known as Proposition E – so residents could have their say before it was actioned.

In yesterday’s vote, 68 per cent voted in favor and 31 per cent opposed the ban, which includes everything from candy-flavored e-cigarettes to conventional menthol smokes.

Other cities and states could now follow suit with San Francisco’s neighbour San Mateo County also voting for a ban yesterday and Chicago filing a similar proposal, now due to be scrutinised by its finance committee.

Opponents to San Francisco’s new law were mostly consumers and small business owners who were worried the law could kill off local trade in the city.

They argued not only would it mean shop closures, vape users would have to travel outside the city to buy their e-liquids, taking more business away from the city.

Supporters of the ban, including the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids, said they believed the ban on all flavored e-liquids, including candy and bubblegum flavors which they believe lures children into vaping, would see fewer under-age vapers take up the habit.

However, opposers of the ban said residents are now much more likely to buy products over the internet instead, where it’s actually easier for teens to buy them.

Vape users as well as harm reduction advocates also argued that banning flavors would make it harder for adult smokers to quit.

As news of the story broke this morning, San Francisco residents took to social media to express their reactions.

One resident, D Wilson, wrote on Twitter: “Vaping helps many people finally quit smoking and you can gradually taper down the nicotine levels in the e-juice till its 0, therefore no more addiction....teens can't buy it so why take it away from adults trying to quit?”

The vote had seen many big money backers on each side trying to sway the vote with tobacco giant RJ Reynolds reportedly ploughing $11 million to the "No on E" campaign with adverts on the radio, TV, online and via direct mail.

On the other side, former New York City mayor and billionaire Michael Bloomberg is said to have contributed $1.3million to the campaign for a “yes” vote.

While some believed it was only the big tobacco giants who stood to lose out with a flavor ban, Greg Conley, president of the American Vaping Association didn't see it that way.

"It is a travesty that anti-vaping extremists would mislead San Francisco voters into making it harder for adult smokers to quit," he said, adding that flavored products are helpful to smokers who want to give up.

Resident Sam Pryfogle added of the ban in a light-hearted quip: "I guess adults don't get to choose what we want anymore. Kids aren't the only ones who enjoy a little flavor in their vape!"


Those crazy people think they are doing good by this but all they are doing is closing down local businesses and punishing Vaper's for their own narrow minded views imho.

 

[Richard46]

Interesting that the place people used to flock to 50 years ago in order to smoke anything now leads the world in intolerance and devising prescriptive statutes.

[solac77]

That's it keep them on the stinkies and cull that population. Shame about velvet juices they were good if you could stomach the price ;(

[djs]

Bankers! with a capital W.

[Perpetua]

I just cannot get my head round the bonkers legislation and regulation around the world, the vilification and demonizing, the downright lies that are spouted in order to discredit our habit, based on zero factual evidence.

A habit that was created in order to give smokers a healthier ( and it is ) more socially acceptable means of successfully satisfying a nicotine addiction.

It is beyond my comprehension that vaping has attracted such punitive measures, anywhere.

( Expect sales of food flavouring in San Francisco to increase . . . . . where there's a will, there's a way! )

[jtc]

And we vote these leaders in 😂

[jtc]

The UK is a bit cleverer and are letting vaping go on cheap for now. Give it 10 years when everyone vapes and watch the tax and control then.
Everyone will fall for it and they are rubbing their hands.
People are just so gullible and evil is winning right now imo.
Sorry to get so deep and weird but I just see so much BS in the world 😢

[striker42]

Jun 6, 2018 22:16:27 GMT jtc said:

And we vote these leaders in 😂

Very true, but by the time we vote them out it's too late, they've had their nose in the trough, hand in the till and more back handers than Andy Murray.

[domesticextremist]

Jun 6, 2018 22:24:32 GMT jtc said:

The UK is a bit cleverer and are letting vaping go on cheap for now. Give it 10 years when everyone vapes and watch the tax and control then.
Everyone will fall for it and they are rubbing their hands.
People are just so gullible and evil is winning right now imo.
Sorry to get so deep and weird but I just see so much BS in the world 😢

Well, they spent millions of research dollars trying to find something wrong with caffeine as a pretext for a sin tax.
After many years they finally discovered that it keeps you awake!
Otherwise harmless.

Hope springs eternal.

To the "one more ban from nirvana brigade" we only need cite the banning of cannabis - end result: skunk and now spice.
Great job guys.

[Bob]

Jun 6, 2018 22:24:32 GMT jtc said:

The UK is a bit cleverer and are letting vaping go on cheap for now. Give it 10 years when everyone vapes and watch the tax and control then.
Everyone will fall for it and they are rubbing their hands.
People are just so gullible and evil is winning right now imo.
Sorry to get so deep and weird but I just see so much BS in the world 😢

It's already on the horizon: www.planetofthevapes.co.uk/news/vaping-news/2018-05-30_reclassifying-and-taxing-vaping.html?utm_source=nl&utm_medium=news&utm_campaign=taxing

[DaveJ]

Ban flavours? Idiots!

Guess it'll drive the growth of "DIY" juices over there ...

[*-SARIN-*]

A place where it's easier to buy a gun than flavoured e-liquid! I'm not going to worry myself over that

[buggritt]

68% voted to ban them. Rant all you like about leaders, politcians etc. These people were offered a choice, and made it. It's called democracy.

[kailey]

It seems all over the world they are doing everything they can to keep smokers smoking by making safer options more difficult and dangerous.

[DaveJ]

Jun 9, 2018 13:29:17 GMT buggritt said:

68% voted to ban them. Rant all you like about leaders, politcians etc. These people were offered a choice, and made it. It's called democracy.

Good point and well made.

I had started to think of all the reasons why it went that way, but in the end the simple summary is as you state - the people voted.

Sad.