something like campfire custard

[ragjoy]

ive mixed before but quite some time ago and to a very basic standard.
ive only ever used flavour art flavours.
ive been vaping campfire custard by dragons rise for a couple of years and since the changes ive bought zero nic from dragons rise and added my own .72 nic.
i will no longer buy from dragons rise due mainly to a total lack of communication.
so im looking for something to mix myself, without getting out of my depth.
can i use FA custard and get a reasonable vape from it?
im not a flavour mad vaper, just want to something simple to mix until i get my head around it all.
i dont know if it makes a difference but i believe it does, i vape using innokin T18 coils/cartos @ 9 watts so im not currently a high watt vaper, so im assuming i dont need the flavour intensity.
i have read a post on kreeds custard that says FA custard is fine as a single part mix.
just some ideas would be very helpful.
tia.

[tcg69]

ragjoy you would be better off buying a one shot custard mix than just using FA custard as it has a citrus note, if you want some custard samples just pm me I have loads mixed and steeped. Kreeds Custard is a very good custard what I did was use FA Premium Custard as this suited my taste.

[B Road Blaster]

TBH there is a 1001 different custards out nowadays
MrDJ is a total custard fiend who i am sure used to also vape campfire at one point
hopefully he will be along at some point and can help you with a similar flavour profile.

[MrDJ]

cheers for the shout @broadblaster

ahh campfire (DJ hides his head in shame). it was me that tried them first and introduced them to the forums but even after all this time their lack of communication and inconsistency with the flavour ive not bought from them in the last year and now ive started mixing they wont be getting any more orders from me.

now i still buy at least 300ml of shortfills a month of any sort of custard but for those on a tight budget theres no better way to get your fix than make it yourself.

so far i mixed around 20-30 custards and they were all a bit meh. vapable but not something id rush out and mix again but as tastes are so subjective you may love them.

personally the best of the best is capella V1 which has a few nasties in it (the whole popcorn lung fiasco was blown out of all proportion and debunked a couple of years ago as more diacetyl in a single cig compared to the worst ever reading in an eliquid).
if you are worried about diacetly then there is capella V2 but i think thats kak. give me V1 any day.

as tcg69 stated, it might be a good idea to try some oneshots. ive got 10 steeping at the moment. all bought from Chefs www.chefsflavours.co.uk/88-chefsvapour-concentrates
just mix at 20% for most of them and add vg/pg/nic then steep for a month.

some that ive tried so far are kreeds, welsh, claires ambrosia.

mixing yourself
as your using a low wattage tank then a 50/50 would be best and this is the only 50/50 one ive tried (pic below) so far but it uses capella v1
theve named it gvc but its nowhere near grants custard.

also i use this calculator to work it all out www.steam-engine.org/juice.html
i couldnt get the hang of syringes but scales make it so easy working in grams.

the pic below ive added to the calculator. to make 10ml bottle- 50/50 - zero nicotine (if you want nic added let me know what strength and ill add it to the calculator)
hope this helps a bit.

[ragjoy]

thanks guys, as i suspected, a bloody minefield lol.
i think the one shots is what im looking for a this stage, i thought that was what i was doing when i bought zero nic campfire custard a month or so back.
im going to take a look at the link for chefs flavours and start from there, i like to make up 300ml or so at a time so should i be looking to buy 60ml for that amount, just trying to get a rough idea of how much one shot to buy.
thanks again.

EDIT can i just add that im currenly at 16 to 18mg and my newest and final batch is 12mg if i remember correctly, does this affect my one shot ratio?

[MrDJ]

i only mix up a 10ml bottle to start with as a waste if your not going to like it so buy 10ml concentrate, try it and if its good then a bigger bottle next time.
10ml at 20% will make around 50ml

[ragjoy]

ive just had a look at my 1ltr unopened dark stored (not fridge) vg and pg and it is 6months out of date, use or chuck.
tia.

[Perpetua]

Nov 9, 2018 23:31:52 GMT ragjoy said:

ive just had a look at my 1ltr unopened dark stored (not fridge) vg and pg and it is 6months out of date, use or chuck.
tia.

Should be fine ragjoy . . . . however if you're in doubt, then both are reasonable enough to replace.

I'll echo the recommendations for one shots, they simplify the mixing process significantly - but please don't make vast quantities at first, until you find what works for your tastes and what doesn't.

Chefs have a good custardy selection in their 10ml samples, the more you buy then the price is reduced on each one, our AAEC discount code also gives 10% off on any orders over £10.00 excluding P&P.

www.chefsflavours.co.uk/chefsvapour-concentrates/5237-chefs-10ml-samples.html?search_query=10ml+samples&results=3

[ragjoy]

Nov 10, 2018 5:55:08 GMT Perpetua said:

Nov 9, 2018 23:31:52 GMT ragjoy said:

ive just had a look at my 1ltr unopened dark stored (not fridge) vg and pg and it is 6months out of date, use or chuck.
tia.

Should be fine ragjoy . . . . however if you're in doubt, then both are reasonable enough to replace.

I'll echo the recommendations for one shots, they simplify the mixing process significantly - but please don't make vast quantities at first, until you find what works for your tastes and what doesn't.

Chefs have a good custardy selection in their 10ml samples, the more you buy then the price is reduced on each one, our AAEC discount code also gives 10% off on any orders over £10.00 excluding P&P.

www.chefsflavours.co.uk/chefsvapour-concentrates/5237-chefs-10ml-samples.html?search_query=10ml+samples&results=3

Thanks Mandy x

[DaveJ]

Nov 9, 2018 23:31:52 GMT ragjoy said:

ive just had a look at my 1ltr unopened dark stored (not fridge) vg and pg and it is 6months out of date ..

6 months? Pfffft!

In your cool climate it'll be right - assuming it was reasonably decent/fresh when you first purchased it. I have 3 plus year old stuff in the dark cupboard (not fridge) and it sees quite warm conditions for some of the year. It's fine.

Give it a sniff when you first open it. If all seems right, try mixing a small batch and vape it. If it vapes ok then go for it!

Or what Perpetua said above^^^

[ragjoy]

back again, ive been having a look at chefs flavours.
im a bit confused of how to buy the one shots, some seem to be available in 10ml and others in 30ml for example welsh custard @ 10ml £3.60 then kreeds kustard @ 30ml £3.60.
obviously im missing something, is welsh custard 3x the price of kreeds kustard?.
i intended to try the recommendations from tcg69 with kreeds and mrdj adding claires ambrosia and welsh custard.
claires and kreeds are only in 30ml and 100ml with welsh only available in 10ml, am i understanding this right?.
tia.

[tcg69]

ragjoy just buy some 10ml samples and mix them up see which one you like best, one of my favourites is virtual Custard which is available in 10ml. Kreeds Custard I make from the recipe but I change the caps custard to Fa premium custard. I have most of those on your list already mixed and steeped if you want some 10ml samples sent free of charge pm me.

[ragjoy]

Nov 15, 2018 18:15:08 GMT tcg69 said:

ragjoy just buy some 10ml samples and mix them up see which one you like best, one of my favourites is virtual Custard which is available in 10ml. Kreeds Custard I make from the recipe but I change the caps custard to Fa premium custard. I have most of those on your list already mixed and steeped if you want some 10ml samples sent free of charge pm me.

thank you for your kind offer, i missed thanking you the first time.
i would like to sample them if thats ok with you but i also need to get some mixed, initially from one shots.
i have around 240ml of campfire custard thats had 6 weeks plus, so now ready to vape, after that im out of juice, this will last me around 8 weeks, so it doesnt leave me a lot of steeping and finding a juice time, nobodies fault except mine, ive been lazy but need to get my finger out.
if theres a couple of relatively safe fall backs like virtual custard then im more than happy to order and try them, to be honest i favoured kreeds because ive seen so many threads on it, that it must be good.
i struggled badly in the past with some flavours that used to give me terrible instant headaches, ive never got to find out what it was that disagreed with me, so ive tended to find something im reasonably happy with and stick with it, which is where campfire custard came in but i simply cant deal with them anymore, hassle with every order.
i can forward a contribution to you or pay the postage for any samples if that helps, i can do paypal or bacs.
tia

[tcg69]

Nov 15, 2018 18:44:10 GMT ragjoy said:

Nov 15, 2018 18:15:08 GMT tcg69 said:

ragjoy just buy some 10ml samples and mix them up see which one you like best, one of my favourites is virtual Custard which is available in 10ml. Kreeds Custard I make from the recipe but I change the caps custard to Fa premium custard. I have most of those on your list already mixed and steeped if you want some 10ml samples sent free of charge pm me.

thank you for your kind offer, i missed thanking you the first time.
i would like to sample them if thats ok with you but i also need to get some mixed, initially from one shots.
i have around 240ml of campfire custard thats had 6 weeks plus, so now ready to vape, after that im out of juice, this will last me around 8 weeks, so it doesnt leave me a lot of steeping and finding a juice time, nobodies fault except mine, ive been lazy but need to get my finger out.
if theres a couple of relatively safe fall backs like virtual custard then im more than happy to order and try them, to be honest i favoured kreeds because ive seen so many threads on it, that it must be good.
i struggled badly in the past with some flavours that used to give me terrible instant headaches, ive never got to find out what it was that disagreed with me, so ive tended to find something im reasonably happy with and stick with it, which is where campfire custard came in but i simply cant deal with them anymore, hassle with every order.
i can forward a contribution to you or pay the postage for any samples if that helps, i can do paypal or bacs.
tia

Just pm me your address I will send you some free don't need to pay for postage.

[ragjoy]

Nov 15, 2018 18:48:19 GMT tcg69 said:

Nov 15, 2018 18:44:10 GMT ragjoy said:

thank you for your kind offer, i missed thanking you the first time.
i would like to sample them if thats ok with you but i also need to get some mixed, initially from one shots.
i have around 240ml of campfire custard thats had 6 weeks plus, so now ready to vape, after that im out of juice, this will last me around 8 weeks, so it doesnt leave me a lot of steeping and finding a juice time, nobodies fault except mine, ive been lazy but need to get my finger out.
if theres a couple of relatively safe fall backs like virtual custard then im more than happy to order and try them, to be honest i favoured kreeds because ive seen so many threads on it, that it must be good.
i struggled badly in the past with some flavours that used to give me terrible instant headaches, ive never got to find out what it was that disagreed with me, so ive tended to find something im reasonably happy with and stick with it, which is where campfire custard came in but i simply cant deal with them anymore, hassle with every order.
i can forward a contribution to you or pay the postage for any samples if that helps, i can do paypal or bacs.
tia

Just pm me your address I will send you some free don't need to pay for postage.

thanks again tcg, i'll pm my details to you.