Nicotine Vaccine?

[maccafan]

A single dose of a new nicotine vaccine could provide lifetime protection from the pleasurable effects of nicotine, helping existing smokers quit for good and preventing those that haven't yet smoked from becoming addicted.

www.gizmag.com/nicotine-vaccine/23130/

[Perpetua]

Interesting Macca, although I can't quite decide how I feel about this.

[maccafan]

If it keeps the next generation from getting addicted, I would welcome it with open arms and I suppose it gives a choice to those who really want to quit nicotine but find themselves unable to do so.

I suspect the tobacco industry will be out to prove that it causes brain damage or something...

[dogenddave]

Just read the article and I think it's fantastic news.

The mice round here leave dog-ends all over the place.

[jiggsbro]

Jul 3, 2012 11:15:47 GMT maccafan said:

If it keeps the next generation from getting addicted, I would welcome it with open arms and I suppose it gives a choice to those who really want to quit nicotine but find themselves unable to do so.

I suspect the tobacco industry will be out to prove that it causes brain damage or something...

The tobacco industry don't accept that nicotine is addictive and the scientific evidence supports that view. I tend to the view that it's the MOAI-like tobacco alkoids that supply the pleasure and the addiction. The vaccine seems to be another symptom of the wilful ignorance that pervades the anti-smoking establishment.

[domesticextremist]

Jul 3, 2012 7:01:16 GMT maccafan said:

A single dose of a new nicotine vaccine could provide lifetime protection from the pleasurable effects of nicotine, helping existing smokers quit for good and preventing those that haven't yet smoked from becoming addicted.

www.gizmag.com/nicotine-vaccine/23130/

Hmm, nicotine receptors occur naturally in the body and I'm sure they
are there for a reason. I wonder if in the long run, turning them off
would do more harm than good.
Besides, nicotine itself isn't that bad, it is smoking tobacco as a delivery
mechanism that is the harmful bit.
Vaccines seem like the latest wheeze for big pharma to sell lots of drugs -
they seem to be vaccinating against things that are very rare or non-life
threatening.

[hifistud]

Fercryinoutloud.... are they gonna vaccinate us against enjoying looking at boobs or having a cuppa or licking an ice cream next? What is it with these people? Puritanical killjoys, the lot of 'em.

[domesticextremist]

Having read the article it's worse than I thought.
They engineer your body to consume the nicotine before it reaches
the brain.
So if you already smoke, you don't get your hit, and presumably
smoke even more trying to get it.
All of the death, none of the fun.
Somebody hasn't thought this through.

[Gordy]

Jul 3, 2012 11:22:50 GMT dogenddave said:

Just read the article and I think it's fantastic news.

The mice round here leave dog-ends all over the place.

LOL beat me to it ....i hope these mice are appreciative

[jiggsbro]

Jul 3, 2012 14:30:37 GMT domesticextremist said:

So if you already smoke, you don't get your hit, and presumably
smoke even more trying to get it.

Quite. You can vaccinate against enjoying nicotine, but you can't vaccinate against wanting nicotine. And people vaccinated against nicotine will still be addicted to smoking.

[domesticextremist]

Jul 3, 2012 17:11:26 GMT jiggsbro said:

Jul 3, 2012 14:30:37 GMT domesticextremist said:

So if you already smoke, you don't get your hit, and presumably
smoke even more trying to get it.

Quite. You can vaccinate against enjoying nicotine, but you can't vaccinate against wanting nicotine. And people vaccinated against nicotine will still be addicted to smoking.

And it brings up a moral question of do parents have
the right to vaccinate their kids against being able to
enjoy nicotine (or any other potentially addictive substance,
because you can bet they won't stop at nicotine)?

Should the vaccination be delayed until they reach
majority age and should they be allowed to try it first
before deciding?

The more I think about it, the more I think these researchers
have fundamentally misunderstood what it is to be human.