Cramps- side effects?

[leftfield]

What strength of nicotine do you use? There's a really big difference in how much nicotine we can tolerate. I can only take around 10mg (I use 8mg at the moment) and around 2 - 4ml of that a day or I will not sleep for days at a time and have a tight neck feeling that wont go away until I've stopped vaping for a good few hours. As with smoking, one of my cues that I've had too much is that I'm needing the bathroom a lot more often - number one and number two's :-[

Others can vape 42mg no problem at all all day every day. I'd be in A&E if I did that, guaranteed. You could be taking in too much nic.

[Karma]

agrees with Ellen, Brofun could make matters a lot worse

For stomache problems i like Superdrug own make 3 in 1 antacid

You can buy probiotic capsules so as you don't have to eat the yogurt

If this peresists do go and see your GP!

[Cyberpixie]

Could actually be VG, I know of some people who get tummy troubles and the trots from VG.
As for probiotics, you wont get much from eating yoghurt. Healthspan do a really good probiotic in capsules that work They're one of the better ones.

[boo]

Jul 24, 2012 9:56:40 GMT leftfield said:

What strength of nicotine do you use? There's a really big difference in how much nicotine we can tolerate. I can only take around 10mg (I use 8mg at the moment) and around 2 - 4ml of that a day or I will not sleep for days at a time and have a tight neck feeling that wont go away until I've stopped vaping for a good few hours. As with smoking, one of my cues that I've had too much is that I'm needing the bathroom a lot more often - number one and number two's :-[

Others can vape 42mg no problem at all all day every day. I'd be in A&E if I did that, guaranteed. You could be taking in too much nic.

I'm on 18mg- think i should cut down?

[boo]

Karma- yesterday's cramps were quite bad, and the ibuprofen seemed to help, maybe it was a placebo?

Thanks pixie, will have a fiddle with the VG/PG content on next lot of juices I get, see if that helps any. To be honest, im a little disheartened. I took to vaping not only for the money side of things, but for health reasons too, and to get cramps seems to be a bit of a kick in the teeth

[Karma]

Really Boo if they're that bad you really should see a doc. It may not be related to stopping smoking or vaping!

[leftfield]

Jul 24, 2012 10:04:14 GMT boo said:

I'm on 18mg- think i should cut down?

It's hard to say really - how much nicotine you can take is very personal. It would also depend on how often you vape and how many ml you use in a day.

I started on 18mg but I found I was going 3 - 4 days and only getting around 4 hours of sleep because I seem to absorb nicotine at a crazy rate. I dropped to 12mg but I still had a tough time sleeping. Going way down to 8, I found my ideal level for my 2 - 4ml a day vaping habit.

If you only vape 1ml a day I'd be taking in more nicotine than you per day with my 2 - 4ml.

It's worth trying a lower nic for a few days just to see if it helps at all but you will lose some throat hit stepping down which may be odd for you.

In my experience, going from 18mg to 12mg wasn't that noticeable but going to 8mg was noticeable. That being said, you do get used to whatever mg rating you're using. Now 8mg feels like the throat hit I expect, though I do vape at 5v so it's a hot vape. If I take the original 18mg I was used to it now feels too strong a throat hit. Odd but what seems to have happened to me.

[jamila169]

Boo- it does sound like possibly too high a nic level, I've found that having gone from 30 rollies a day, I'm ok on 11 mg, even 18 made me a bit queasy. When you say stomach, do you mean stomach, or guts? FWIW, nicotine in low levels has a beneficial effect on IBS, crohn's disease and ulcerative colitis ( from my mum's consultant!) but it can irritate in too high a dose,which varies from person to person.
As for nurofen, leave it well alone if you've any GI upset, you can do a world of damage with no symptoms.

[boo]

Thanks for that jamila, will lower my mg level on next lot of juices i get. I mean in the area just above my stomach.

[rosylea]

I found VG gave me stomach cramps,i only use a couple of drops in my PG now to give a bit more vapour and i am fine on that.

[Ellen]

This is where researching this kind of stuff gets so frustrating, there's still very little consensus on side effects of vaping.
Even just on this short thread it may be
1) too much PG
2) too much VG
3) too much nicotine

[Cyberpixie]

Best to see your Dr though, could be a coincidence and something totally different, could be acid reflux, ulcer, coeliac, and numerous other things, best to have a check-up first

[jamila169]

Jul 24, 2012 12:10:53 GMT Cyberpixie said:

Best to see your Dr though, could be a coincidence and something totally different, could be acid reflux, ulcer, coeliac, and numerous other things, best to have a check-up first

Hear hear pixie
Boo, are you listening? Pain at the top of your stomach indicates reflux- don't take any more nurofen, and get to the GP, you probably need omeprazole or similar, don't muck about with OTC stuff. Then you need to work out what's irritating you, whether it's too high a nic level , or one of the components of the juice, or even something completely different

[boo]

Thanks guys.

Agree ellen, very confusing!

Will go down that route pixie if i really have to or it gets unbearable, luckily, today it's only happened a bit this morning, im fine this afternoon (touch wood!)

[boo]

Awwww, ok