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please at least recognise my intelect even if you cant find a way to respect it.

if i claim i know persons whom quit then i make the claim from experience and in complete context.

i do not need to incorporate hypathetical argument as my argument is played out on a daily basis and you seem to accept that you experience it yourself.

hypatheticaly i would donate my ecigs to either you or david if alas the world was definately about to end at midnight. guess what, dont count on my fantastic collection of ecigs.

it is not my intention to wind up but if frustration has found you, it is perhaps due to the failing argument you subscribe to.

congratulations david. you have another sympathiser, who can also incorperate hypothetical anomaly to substantiate your point.

my take on vaping is that i will continue to enjoy it and fully expect changes to occur with costs rising significantly as controls ensue. the powers will not be influenced by you.
i am aware of folk who have weaned themselves comfortably from nicotine by personal choice by utilising the versatility of vaping.
i recognise the massive distinction between smoking and vaping and feel no necessity to submit to definitions of the week minded conformist.
ecigs suitably offer nicoteen delivery therefore ecigs equate to the ultimate smoking cessation device.
i have no desire to reconsider my vocabulary and will not cosy up to the ludicrous notion that conflicts with my own intelligence.
there is no smoke without fire and i quit smoking amid my discovery of ecigs. my individual intelligent conclusion tells me you did the same.

we remain appreciative of nicoteen but differ on the choice of whom to listen to in categorising ourselves. my opinion is led by logic and intelligence wheras your position is seemingly to bow down to satisfy the requirement of others. if denial of the facts suits you then so be it but i prefer to catatagorise you simply a bloke who quit smoking but lacked the pride to stand up and admit it.

you are correct you did change brand.

theres a clue there

medical grade nicoteen. propylene glycol, glycerin B.P. i think the pharmacy counter completely appropriate.

as for quiting, these things can and do help people who wish to end nicoteen addiction.
they also provide a hobby for the enthusiast. many of whom are members. the enthusiast is likely to appreciate and embrace their addiction.

steam from a kettle is not smoke. if my kettle smoked i reckon it Quit working. still holds water though.

its a shame these things didnt work out as there was always a great profit in them. hopefully the losses will be offset from the profits from other sales mark.
there is a brighter side to this in that no serious injuries have yet occured as that realy would be a disaster.