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I bought a Vype, it cost me £6.99, it tasted OK, but it didn't last me a day and it was £6.99 hhhhhmmmm!!!

Did I mention it was £6.99??? hee hee xx

I have absolutely nothing against smokers, because I'm an ex-smoker and my husband who has never smoked has nothing against smokers, but from his perspective as neither a smoker nor a vaper, he and I truly believe that the world would be a far better place without the tobacco cigarette. Your car cannot pass it's MoT until the exhaust fumes which come from it are at a "safe level", there will never be a safe level, however we need to get around. But no one needs to smoke 4000 chemicals to get a nicotine hit. Without them, yes people would live longer, because they would be healthier, but it's false economy to think that without the revenue that comes from cigarettes Countries will collapse...they're doing that already. People would not just be healthier, they'd have a better standard of life, more money to spend, the hospitals and research departments would have far more cash in order to help people who have smoke related illnesses, other illness, it's an industry which kills people, but it's not regulated, apart from not being able to sell to people over the age of 18.

In the electronic cigarette industry responsible vendors only sell to people who currently smoke and are over the age of 18. The target audience and market of tobacco cigarettes are children aged between 11-15. Even their attempt at "if you can't beat them join them", shows that they are marketing their disposable e-cigs to children, they want them hooked, for them it's a win/win.

Prohibition didn't work, neither will the proposed regulation (over regulation in 2016). The medical devices licence will be given to the Tobacco giants, BAT & Imperial, they take the market once again and thousands upon thousands of other businesses go out of business. We need to hold our EGO's high and proud, keep small/medium sized e-cigarette businesses in business and stop big tobacco from dominating and monopolising this industry of ours, I bought a Vype, it cost me £6.99, it tasted OK, but it didn't last me a day and it was £6.99 hhhhhmmmm!!!

Why should people be forced to smoke, forced to be killed and live an unhealthy life to keep revenue coming in when there is a much healthier alternative out there which DOESN'T KILL PEOPLE?

MY RANT OVER

Try 100% VG based e-liquids from Link removed by Chrissie loads of vapour, taste and throat hit

Edit by Chrissie - link removed as mittenkitten is associated with the website she linked to.

It does seem that 3.2ohms would seem to be high, as has already been said it should around 2.2-2.5ohms which is the standard setting, also as said before both would do the trick...I get lots of vapour and I use 100% VG e-liquid but as I'm new here don't think I am allowed to say where from. I have been vaping since 23rd June 2012, I found out I had a PG allergy and went on a massive search for the best VG e-liquids, eventually found them and I do get a throat hit, lots of vapour and tons of flavour too xx I use a couple of kits, I love my eGO-C Twist and use it with a CE5, an Evod and a X9 Protank, use the X9 Protank for clearo crackers and have pineapple in it at the moment, which is delicious and clouds of vapour x MK

PS: Can I just say that your point about pushing this out generally via radio etc., is a great one and that is the whole reason for the birth of www.vape4life.org, as we want to reach not just the vaping community, but also to educate those who have been hit hard by the scaremongery, those people who don't even know that electronic cigarettes exist and in fact all 741 million adult European citizens, whether they vape, smoke, live with a smoker/vaper, have children who are exposed to smoke, have friends who smoke and they are concerned for their health. The only great thing about smoking is that other than the age restriction put on it, it doesn't have a demographic - smokers are rich, poor, male, female, some under-age unfortunately, black, white, Christian, Catholic, Muslim, Jewish, able bodied, disabled, gay, lesbian, bi-sexual, transvestite, unemployed, employed, business owners, staff and I'm sure we can add to the list, but I'm also sure you get my drift x MK

Let's all be very honest here:

Big tobacco joining OUR industry is a case of "if you can't beat them join them". I would!

World Health Organisation - WHO are they? What do they do other than over-complicate and under-value lives...therefore this body is neither needed nor wanted?

Pharmaceutical companies - they are so cash rich and debt free they aren't bothered, but it would be handy for them if people did keep suffering from smoke related illness, as one day it will impact on their business if people didn't. So they are forward thinking and there is something for them to worry about further down the line, but let's face it, they aren't going to go out of business - EVER!

MHRA - putting money before lives. Taking backhanders and NOT carrying out full research. Again, like WHO, over-complicating a simple matter.

MEP's/MP's - Running round like headless chickens. With austere times, too many people willing to "kiss and tell", they are surrounded by clandestine people, they don't know who to trust and what to do, so they follow the pied piper...and tick the same box as the person next to them. It is so rare for MEP's and MP's to have so many people on their case regarding electronic cigarettes and they STILL fail to do the right thing. The scary thing is, even if we win the vote in the EU, there is nothing to stop the UK Government deciding to ban e-cigs anyway! You only have to look at the EU ban on the pesticide "neo-nicotinoid" proven toxic to bees, banned by the EU but the UK Government has opted out of the ban and it is still in use in this Country! Without bees, we wouldn't exist! So what is the point of the EU...I guess the best thing for us is that if we can win the argument here in the UK, then that strengthens our case across the world.

How much proof does anyone need to show that the electronic cigarette is safe/safer. The fact is that millions of smokers have weighed up the evidence themselves and switched to electronic cigarettes, but what is even more important is that there are millions of people everyday who choose to vape rather than smoke. If electronic cigarettes were dangerous and did not do a job, then people would surely soon switch back to smoking, people are way more savvy than they are given credit for!

Something else to consider : In terms of air pollution, the motor car pollutes the air many times more than an electronic cigarette. In every country in the world motor cars kill and injure people every day, but we don't see the WHO or any other body suggesting that we should ban them.

Every day I read about electronic cigarettes in all places on the internet, in newspapers, I listen to the radio and if there are any debates on about e-cigs, I listen. What I hear more and more, is this argument "but e-cigs are not showing that people are quitting smoking by using them" and this bothers me greatly...it's almost as though this is going to be the basis for a complete ban. We have to keep reiterating that electronic cigarettes were NEVER intended to be a smoking cessation device, they are and will remain to be ENDS - ELECTRONIC NICOTINE DELIVERY SYSTEM...an alternative method to smoking! This is where our choices are being taken away and someone has decided to categorise the electronic cigarette in the "no smoking" cupboard, well, it doesn't belong there. It seems the harm is caused by smoking tobacco and not by nicotine, but politicians and so called health professionals and associated "do-gooders" are hell bent on waging a war on nicotine addiction and you have to ask WHY? The World Health Organisation has for 30 years been campaigning to wipe out malaria without little success and the real progress is now only being made because Bill Gates has stepped in with his millions of dollars!

Electronic cigarettes have to come to light (excuse the pun) because they have, by default, enabled people to quit effectively, not by using nicotine replacement therapies. This is not a case of self-medication, this is a case where people have wanted to quit, but with the NRT's being so ineffective, they have turned to electronic cigarettes, and they have managed to reduce their own nicotine strength in their e-liquids to a sufficient degree that they have become "non-smokers" and "non-vapers". The heavy handed regulation of nicotine replacement therapies have made them ineffective so why put something that is working into the same category as nicotine replacement therapy...it's nonsense, you know, I know, they know it, the MEP's and MP's know it, WHO know it, MHRA know it, this Government know it, even the tobacco and pharmaceuticals know it, yet this is still happening!!

The electronic cigarette is NOT a smoking cessation device, unless the person who is using it wants it to be - that is why we have choices and our choices are being taken away from us. These bodies are not asking themselves "why do people use electronic cigarettes"? - It seems to me that they are incapable of grasping the fact there is now a third alternative - they only see it this way "smoking or not smoking". What about the people who WANT TO USE E-CIGARETTES for recreational use in the same way people drink tea, coffee and also Pepsi, Coca Cola, Energy drinks, indeed anything with caffeine in!?

I said at the beginning of this thread, let's be honest here...well MEP'S/MP's, WHO, MHRA, The Government of the United Kingdom, nameless, faceless beaurocrats, do-gooders, pharmaceutical companies and even the tobacco industry, get real, there is an open market and the electronic cigarette is part of it, get used to it because we aren't going to go away...what is really needed is a proper enforcement of existing consumer regulation. There should be a ban on sales to minors and anyone who doesn't already smoke. Perhaps there should be regulation on advertising and promotion of electronic cigarettes and there is room for more testing of the vapour which is emitted both from the e-cigarette and exhaled by the vaper. Personally, I would like to see regulation on e-liquid labelling and an enforcement of such.