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Now this thread made me PMSL.....thanks

Thanks Glen arrived today

Tubthumper, just to play devils advocate here for the sake of a decent debate and hopefully a bit of brain working. What makes you Scottish? Because you were born in Scotland? Its this that is the draw of this thread. Why does where someone is born make them any different?

The link to where you or I was born is so strong that we tend to associate "US" with where we are born. I was born in Salford and on many occasions found myself defending Salford, just because I feel I need to show support.

Now, I maybe a little paranoid here, but I suspect many politicians and those in power know this and play on this so much that we dont actually see the manipulation that is taking place.

I am happy as I said for balance. And they knew then that smoking was not healthy and some said so, but others said it was...now have we had this before?

This may seem an odd thread, but as someone who works will all nationalities, it has always troubled me about a human link to the place of birth.

For example why is it important to know where someone was born?

Why do we as people have such a strong link to our place of birth that we would die (and have done all over the world for thousands of years) for a piece of land, that we are only borrowing for now.

And its this that causes so much trouble and hate. The last thing I want is this to turn into a race thread, its not about that, its about the bond that people have that is unshakeable for many about nothing more than an accident of birth.

And it is about birth! I have a very old friend who was born on a boat in the Atlantic in no mans land and he says that he does not have a link to anywhere. His mum was British and his dad was American, but he does not feel British or American and if the mood takes him he chooses one or the other and this is fascinating in terms of the human psyche  of needing to belong.

If the ops feel that they dont want this on the forum, please close.  But for me its fascinating

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