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Hi Super-Shiny, thanks for the welcome

Makes sense Probably when first switching from cigs to e-cigs it can take a bit of getting used to and be a bit stressful just because it's different, so I imagine going for the higher nic would help with getting over that hump and then I can try reducing it later.

So you feel the iclear16's give a nicer vape and the heads also last longer than the mini protank heads? They cost the same at myepack currently, so if they last about the same it would just come down to vape quality really. If it's really that much better, I could consider getting one of each but if I find myself preferring a lot of the possible tank-crackers, I'm not going to be able to use the iclears much, which is why the mini protanks seem like a better buy for me. If there's that much difference in vape quality though, I might have to reconsider and just restrict myself to avoiding certain flavours.

Thanks for all the welcomes and advice everyone, nice to see such a friendly bunch of people

seniorphil, yeah the range of batteries is a bit confusing at first, until you've got some advice on what you're likely to need but I know I want a vv now and definitely will want a backup, even if I can manage with one temporarily at first. Sounds like it would be best not to order from FT just now then, at least not for the stuff I need to get started but maybe for spares that I won't need anytime soon. I was actually wrong when I said that VAT is charged (and the RM fee kicks in) if the order including shipping is over £15, it's actually just the goods value that is considered but if the goods are over £15, then VAT is charged on the total order value including shipping. If FT lie about the value though, it shouldn't be any issue even for orders worth over £15.

A lot of people have said they've never had an EVOD crack on them but then again there's a fair few who've said they have and I'm not really keen to take the risk, so I think I'll concentrate on the Protanks but maybe get one EVOD to experiment with to see if I find the vape preferable. Regarding juices, I think I'll like things like cinnamon, vanilla, bananna, blueberry as I have quite a sweet tooth. Hey, vaping might help me give up sweets/chocolate as well as smoking, so I'll be extra healthy

Ah, thanks. I understand that the resistance isn't so important with vv devices now, as the voltage can be increased to compensate if necessary. It was just a bit confusing seeing devices rated at 2.2ohm and not knowing whether this meant I had to use 2.2ohm replacement heads or not.

I'm in Kingston-upon-Thames but it's easy to get into London from here, so if that's the nearest meet on Saturday I'd be interested in going along, probably take a couple of friends who are interested as well.

Perpetua, thanks for the suggestiong. The MVP is interesting but I'm not sure I'd get on with it's profile and would probably prefer the more "standard" battery/Protank profile. I see it comes with a iClear 30 clearomiser but could that be replaced with a (mini)Protank to eliminate the risk of cracking? If so, I'll think about it a bit more but if I'm replacing the clearomiser, it seems I'm basically paying £40 for a large battery and charger and I can't honestly think of any situations (even camping with no charging ability) where having two or more smaller batteries wouldn't be just as good, if not better.

newdawn, thanks but I'm not sure that would be good value for me, as I'm unlikely to use the iClear 16 clearomisers, so I'd be paying £30 for a 800mah battery and charger (albeit a very nice, highly tweakable one), when I could get two vv 1000mah Twists for about that, which would probably be better for me. Thanks for the tips on juice vendors, I've not come across those two before

Chrissie (sorry, for some reason the board has converted everyone else names into links to their profiles but won't with yours), it's not so much that I want to keep my spend down (although who doesn't!), I just want to avoid wasting money on stuff that I'm not going to use and knowing that there's a risk of the EVODs cracking with certain flavours, some of which are the ones I think I'll like, I'm going to be using Protanks anyway. I also know I want to use vv batteries, so there's no point in spending money on non-vv ones. So although it might cost me a bit more to buy two vv-batteries, a charger, two mini-Protanks and some heads than the EVOD kit, it will be cheaper than buying the kit, only to put half of it to one side and then also buy the vv-batteries and Protanks.

babs, thanks but as I've said above, I'm not sure that itaste kit makes sense for me. I very much like the FT battery you recommended though and might order that as my 2nd battery and just make do with a single battery from myepack or another UK supplier until the 2nd one arrives.

tominmids, thanks for the suggestion of the Dekang USA mix, I'll give that a go to start with to tide me over whilst I'm testing flavours.

giles, you might be right that it's a bit risky to order my 2nd battery from FT but as long as I make sure that every night I remember to charge the 1000/1300mah vv battery I order from the UK to get me started, I should be OK for a few weeks shouldn't I? Regarding the kit you linked to, it doesn't strike me as a good deal for £59 (especially when I'm not planning to use the included EVOD clearomisers and heads) when I can buy two 1000mah vv Twists for £30, two mini Protanks for £20 (although I could just order one from the UK and the 2nd from FT to save a bit), 5 protank replacement heads for £6 and a charger for £3.50, totalling almost exactly the same price as the kit. If I bought the kit and then the protanks and heads, it would cost me about £85. Sure, I get the zipper case and a 10ml bottle of liquid with the kit but they're not really of any value to me.

So thanks again everyone, I think it's probably going to be the vv and protanks (or possibly the MVP but I'm not sure about that). Can anyone point me to good mini-protanks clearomisers and replacement heads on FT, as they have so much variety of devices on there it gets a bit overwhelming trying to decide which ones to get and once I've got my startup sorted, I'll probably order at least some of my spares from there to save a bit of money. I also recall reading about a glue issue with one of the protanks, so I'm not sure if I need to get the mini-Protank 2 or mini-Protank v2. I'm guessing the latter but maybe the glue issue was fixed in the plain 2 as well and there's some advantages with that over the v2. They're the same price on myepack anyway but maybe the only difference is the removable drip-tip on the v2 and some people see that as a negative rather than adding extra value and would rather pay the same for the plain 2?

As for liquids, can anyone advise what nicotine strength I should be getting and also how long 10ml is likely to last me, so that I can make sure I order sufficient stocks to keep me going until I re-order? I'm sure there will be some flavours I order that I don't like, so I might run out a bit earlier than expected if I can't force myself to use those flavours when I run out of the ones I do like so it's hard to predict accurately when starting out and testing flavours but it will give me some idea at least.