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Post by doveman on Feb 19, 2015 3:18:33 GMT
Yeah thanks, I will. Been really busy lately and haven't had a chance to look into it further, so I've just ordered some more juices to keep me going but hopefully I'll get onto mixing my own before they run out.
I think I managed to knacker one of my microcoils when dry burning it, as it stopped glowing at all, which is a shame as I'd only rewicked it once. I've ordered another one as I've only got one left, so hopefully it won't happen again.
Regarding the tank, I was thinking of getting the Protank 3 as I want something bigger than my mini Protank 2 but a lot of the reviews on Amazon talk about problems with leaking and gurgling and difficulty unscrewing the base. I can see it's quite thin so might be hard to get a grip on it compared to the mini Protank. I found it quite cheap here but maybe that reflects the fact they're not selling very well: www.vapers-e-sense.co.uk/index.aspx?pageid=2720414&prodid=12197638
Would the Aerotank v2 www.fasttech.com/products/3006/10004861/1806904-authentic-kangertech-aerotank-v2-bcc-clearomizer or Aerotank Mega www.fasttech.com/products/3006/10004861/1746100-authentic-aerotank-mega-clearomizer be better options? The latter's 3.8ml compared to the 2.5ml of the Aerotank v2 or Protank v3 as well, so that will reduce the amount I need to refill it.
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Post by doveman on Jan 16, 2015 0:42:37 GMT
Well I plucked up the courage to re-wick one of my microcoils. Dry burning the crud off the coil didn't go quite as in the video, as it just turned the crud into white stuff but once I knocked that off I had a nice clean coil underneath.
Re-wicking was a bit fiddly as the coil looks a lot smaller in reality than in the videos, so it's hard to see the hole to poke the wick through but I got there in the end. I can't say that it's working as well as when I first got it, maybe I'm just used to the virtual-vape flavours now, whereas when I first got the flavours and the microcoils I noticed a big difference but maybe I just didn't re-wick it very well (perhaps the cotton's too thick) so I'll see if I can improve it next time I do it.
I definitely get a better cloud with it though and can turn the battery up higher without getting the burnt taste I was getting when trying with the standard coils.
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Post by doveman on Jan 13, 2015 13:17:10 GMT
2 weeks is really too long doveman to go between changes for many coils and eliquids to get the nicest possible vape, especially if you like dessert/sweet vapes. Some of mine that aren't in exclusive use, I change them every 2/3 days. I'd have a go at recoiling with the FT ready coils, which are extremely reasonable and simple to use - so the temptation isn't to use them for too long. If you're getting a burnt taste on new coils, then you're either not letting the coil become saturated with liquid before using it and it's not wicking well, or you're simply trying to push too much power through it whilst it's new, they can take a tank full of liquid to be run in. What's wrong with the vape for you on a lower setting? Just because the extra power is there, you don't have to use it. I just use them until they stop working as well, i.e. I notice a difference. If I'm still getting the same vape from them, I don't see the need to change them and doing so every 2/3 days I'd go through tons of heads and thus increase the cost. It's already getting to the point where I really need to think about mixing my own liquids, as I reckon it's probably costing me about £2/day and although that's half what I was spending on ciggies, it's still more than I anticipated and eats into the savings I was expecting.
There's a quite different burnt taste with a new coil that hasn't been saturated with liquid yet and what I'm talking about is well after that's happened.
I don't like vaping on the lowest setting 3.3v, as I don't get much of a cloud unless it's at about 4.3v and I find it quite unsatisfying without that cloud. As I said, what's the point in buying (and selling) batteries that can be adjusted if we can't turn them up because of the burnt taste problem? I couldn't estimate how much it increase the costs of the batteries but there's obviously going to be some extra cost in making them adjustable, rather than just fixed at 3.3v.
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Post by doveman on Jan 8, 2015 11:21:55 GMT
There is indeed mate. Thanks for the tag. One of the easiest heads to re wick in my opinion. If you need any help doveman just give me a shout. Thanks mate. I'm going to give it a go myself first but I'll give you a shout if I run into problems  |
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Post by doveman on Jan 8, 2015 11:20:25 GMT
You're most likely using coils that are past their best which won't be helping your vape doveman . . . whatever battery you use. Perhaps your friend is using fresher coils? Nah, it's happening even with new heads. Thanks for the tip, I might have to order some of those to use with my non-microcoil heads. |
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Post by doveman on Jan 8, 2015 11:16:42 GMT
The Protanks are pretty bomb proof if looked after. When i have used my coil for a week i remove it and soak it in water for a few days then dry it out on a radiator, i get a another week out of it before recoiling it. I do find also that if you remove the chimney of the coil head and replace the top wick that can revive it too. Thanks for the tip, I'll try that in future |
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Post by doveman on Jan 8, 2015 11:15:25 GMT
A burnt taste at such low power is indeed a sign that either your wick is not able to supply juice to the coil quickly enough, or that your heads are gunked up - what juice do you use? A sweeter thicker juice will caramelise on the coil more quickly, and this cuts down the lifespan of the coil. Of course with a rewickable coil this is not a problem, burn off the crud, rewick and off you go. It sounds to me as if you need to replace the coils. The Jonco microcoils are superb, and once you have rewicked one a couple of times you will wonder what all the fuss is about! A stock Kangertech coil should be lasting about a week to 10 days before going past its best - just a rough guide, this. I'm mostly using sweet 50/50 juices from virtual-vape, such as virtualvape.co.uk/shop/desert-flavours/apple-blackcurrant-strudel-e-liquid/ virtualvape.co.uk/shop/desert-flavours/vanilla/ virtualvape.co.uk/shop/e-liquids/wild-berries/ virtualvape.co.uk/shop/desert-flavours/banana-split-e-liquid/ virtualvape.co.uk/shop/desert-flavours/spiced-honey-biscuit/
but as I've said, I get the burnt taste problem when turning up the battery even with new coils. I got the feeling that the darker liquids I was getting from Euphoric before, including RY4, were actually thicker and more likely to gunk up the coil but I could be wrong in equating dark/thick with gunk.
I can testify that the Jonco microcoils are very good, as I remember insisting my friend had a go when I first got them, especially in combination with the nicer liquids I'd just bought from virtual-vaping I seem to recall it gave more vape at low voltage but didn't actually let me increase the voltage without running into problems though, so still made a variable battery pretty pointless (I'll have to check again when I re-wick though as it's been a while and I could have forgotten!)
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Post by doveman on Jan 8, 2015 11:05:24 GMT
Re wicking the unicoils is pretty easy. Out of all the tanks you have the protank personally will give you the best vape on the devices you have. Also which coils do you have for the nautilus duel coil or bottom vertical coil? This is a guide I did on how to make a microcoil but it also shows you his to disassemble and wick the coil. All you need to do is remove the top post, gently tease out the old wick. Put the head back into the base and pulse fire it to burn the coil clean. Give it a moment to cool, remove coil from base and rewick, put top post on and good to go. Have a little read might help you allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/48380/kanger-protank-recoil-microcoil-guide?page=1#scrollTo=846323I believe their is a video on virtual vapes website by Roscopecotrain that shows rewicking as well Thanks for the tips/guide, I'm sure it's not as difficult as I think, I'll pluck up my courage and give it a go soon.
If the protank is a good match for my batteries, maybe I should get the full-sized one which is 2.5ml, compared to the 1.5ml of the mini. It's still not as big as the iClear30 (3ml) or the Nautlilus (5ml) but would be an improvement.
I'm not sure what type of coil the Nautlilus heads I've got are but they're Aspire BVC.
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Post by doveman on Jan 8, 2015 10:53:54 GMT
How often are you changing the coils in your tanks? As Perpetua said you can try a Uni-Coil or the same sort of thing from Virtual Vape (a bit cheaper) Burning is a sign of the coil not getting enough liquid fast enough it could be gunked up, or you could try altering the way you vape, long and slow is a good way to describe it rather than a short hard tug. I probably change them about every two weeks but I get the burnt taste problem when turning up the battery even with brand new ones, so it's not due to me using them too long.
I already do long and slow vapes as well, so it's not that either.
Thinking about it, I did buy the coils from virtual-vape and I get most of my liquid from there at the moment as it's a lot nicer (and doesn't come in impossibly hard to squeeze bottles!) than the stuff I was previously buying from Euphoric Vaping. It is quite expensive in comparison though (I'm probably getting through 5ml/day) so I'll have to look into making my own once I have some time (buried in legal paperwork at the moment, which is probably why I'm vaping so much).
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Post by doveman on Jan 5, 2015 16:56:54 GMT
You can get a CE4 adapter which means you'll be able to use any 510 DT on your Iclear16 doveman: www.ltecigs.larsentilbrook.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=103&product_id=856Though I wonder if you've lost the ' o ' ring that sits on the stem of the tip which holds it in place? I'm a huge Protank fan . . . but with most coils if you try and push too much power through them, you'll get a burnt taste as your juice won't wick quickly enough. How you vape can also make a difference, if you're doing big lung inhales, then that also will apply. If you're into clouds, maybe have a look at the Unicoil which will go in your Mini Protank: virtualvape.co.uk/shop/atomisers/unicoil/And maybe think about getting VG heavy eliquid . . . . . . You're right, I do appear to have lost the 'o' ring. I remember that being there now that you mention it! It's not a major problem I guess, just need to be a bit more careful that I don't knock the tip out and lose it. I have the same problem with the burnt taste with all four tanks. My friend is using those big square battery tanks now and gets massively more vape than I do, so maybe they use a different type of coil that allows him to turn up the battery. It just seems a bit pointless having variable batteries like the Spinner and Clover if there's no tanks/coils to go with them that will let you turn them up. I moved from 70/30 to 50/50 liquid to increase the vape and I haven't seen anywhere selling higher VG liquids than that. I did actually buy a couple of the Unicoils and they did make the taste much nicer/more flavourful and perhaps produced more vape, although I can't recall about that. I just haven't had the time to sit down and rewick them yet and I've never done that before so I'm a bit nervous about it and working out how much cotton wool to use and how to roll it up, etc. Anyway, as I say I'd rather use the larger tanks anyway as I have to refill the smaller ones several times a day, which is a bit annoying |
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Post by doveman on Jan 5, 2015 16:40:22 GMT
What are you running these tanks on? I've got a Spinner and a Clover battery, 1300mah and 2500mah respectively I think. I also have the small silver battery (900mah I think) that came with the starter kit but I only use that in emergencies now. |
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Post by doveman on Jan 5, 2015 16:12:59 GMT
Hi all, hope you had a great Christmas and New Year
I'm having a lot of problems with my tanks and it's getting quite frustrating! When I started I bought a Mini Protank v2 and an iClear16 and then got given an iClear30 and a Nautilus tank. I prefer the iClear30 as it's easier to re-fill from the top, whereas the Nautilus needs to be unscrewed from the bottom and the seal can be quite tight to undo, along with the fact that the airhole ring rotates making it hard to get a grip.
The Nautilus started gurgling and I was basically just sucking air and making noises and getting no vape. My friend who gave it to me had a look and rinsed it out and it worked OK again (with the same head) for a few days before it stopped working again. The iClear30 isn't working properly either and seems to be leaking liquid from somewhere. I can't see where the airholes are located but I guess they're in the bottom and that seems to be where the liquid is leaking from. I've tried rinsing them both out and changing heads but it hasn't helped.
So I went back to my iClear16 and that's OK except the tip seems to have lost it thread as it just pops out now and I'm sure it used to screw in. The Mini Protank is working OK too but with both, I can't really turn the battery up past the minimum 3.3v (maybe 3.5v) or else I just get a nasty burnt taste. So I can't really get a nice satisfying cloud of vape, particularly when outside and it seems a bit pointless having an adjustable battery. I bought 50/50 liquids as I care more about the vape than the throat hit but without being able to turn up the battery it doesn't seem to make much difference over the 70/30 liquids.
Anyway, I prefer the bigger tanks and not having to refill them and carry liquid in case I need to when out, so should I just buy a new iClear30?
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Post by doveman on Oct 27, 2014 20:20:21 GMT
Nautilus BVC does gather up liquid quite fast and can get a little "soggy". Soggy is what iClear30 gets as well. When things get soggy, you need to get that coil powering away to vapourise the liquid. That's my theory anyway. I gave it a good go, turning up the battery and trying to vapourise away any excess but it didn't help and it's still gurgling and I'm getting more air than vape. I'll ask my mate who gave it to me (and also uses one) to have a look next time he's over, as maybe he's had the same problem and knows how to fix it |
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Post by doveman on Oct 27, 2014 20:17:47 GMT
doveman are the Nautilus heads BVC or BDC? If BVC check the 4 small holes at the bottom of the coil. There's a metal sleeve inside the head which restricts the juice flow. I've found a couple where the sleeve was misaligned and allowed too much juice through. I take the coil & filler out to recoil them so it's just a matter of holding it up to the light. Won't be so easy to tell with the filler inside though. djs can you remember where you left the kanthal?  Yeah, they're BVC so I'll check that thanks, although it would seem strange that the first one was working OK until recently and the fresh second one has had this problem since fitting it. The iClear30 is actually not gurgling too badly at the moment but I'm using my mini Protank with the microcoil I bought at the moment as there does seem to be something not quite right with the iClear30. That probably needs rewicking as it's OK at 3.3v but if I turn it up to even 3.8v I get a nasty burning taste (I think that's the problem I'm having with the iClear30 but the Protank with microcoil works better at 3.3v) and I know when I got it, I could turn it right up without this happening, it just generated more vape but I chose to keep it at 3.3v as that produces about the same amount of vape as other heads at higher voltages and makes the battery last longer. I prefer the iclear30 to the Nautilus anyway, as it's top fill, so I can refill it without having to remove it from the battery and I have trouble unscrewing the Nautilus, as it screws up quite tight. |
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