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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on Jun 1, 2014 23:09:04 GMT
Mikey@Vaporized I don't think you are being unreasonable and unfortunately don't have any solution, unless you had a vape friendly health professional that would reassure your wife. She (you both) have so much on your plate with a newborn to look after and I think you will just have to give her time as the negative press has left many with concerns. As great a vaping is, your family are more important and you are lest with the most important benefit to your health even if you have to go out in the rain. Best wishes to you and your family. I know they are more important, definitely. Way more important than vaping. That said it's an addiction so most will empathise with my need for nicotine getting in the way of other things Just a pain in the ass going in and out to swap tanks, fix a gurgle, get a charged battery cos my one in use dies etc. I can't go out and use it like a cig as I use it much more frequently. She doesn't really see the difference or understand that by pushing me outside she is making it harder. I am gonna be out that door every 20-25 mins every day for the foreseeable future. Next thing will probably be getting shit for how much I go outside. Then I'll have to cut down to save arguments. Just generally feel upset about the whole thing, vaping has been working so well since I started 03/03/14. My only successful attempt at stopping fags in 11 years, after 6 or so years of trying. I vape very frequently to keep my cravings at bay though. Already with less nic I am feeling ratty, defensive, argumentative. I haven't really tested the water of going for long periods without a vape but I can't imagine it would do any of us any good right now.
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on Jun 1, 2014 22:56:49 GMT
Mikey@Vaporized put it down to hormonal imbalance ...is there anyone else perhaps influencing her in her recent decision who is anti-vape ....? Yeah, besides my mum who I have semi converted, basically my whole family. They are both stubborn and uneducated about anything vape related. Also my dad prefers if I don't do it in his house as its a bad influence for my kid bro. She's sees this as being the same as asking me not to do it in my own home...
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on Jun 1, 2014 22:04:59 GMT
This might turn in to a bit of a rant... I will try and stay on topic and not get too emotionally charged but to say I am p***ed off is an understatement. To make a long story short, I switched from cigs to vaping for the benefit of my newborn son. Granted the health benefits for me are fantastic and after making the switch I don't think I could go back to the fags. In the lead up to my son being born I had already switched. There was a bit of debate between me and the OH about whether I should be doing it in the house obviously with me in the yes camp, her in the no camp. She is an ex smoker but just smoked socially, quit cold turkey and quickly turned anti cig. I have carried on vaping in the house until earlier this eve. Today on the way home, in the middle of a long journey I stealth vaped in the car while driving. Nothing mental, a few quick puffs to see me through. I think I did this twice. No clouds or anythin mad, just a quick few deep draws. A few things were said, I got the blunt end of a tired and stressed mother, and the end result is I am now vaping outside. She's "not convinced that it's beneficial for her health". I have tried to explain I'm making no claim for it to be, just certain that it is not harming her or my son, and if it is on any level, no where close to exhaust fumes when he is out for a walk, smoke being produced from frying food etc. I have researched a lot for my own peace of mind before vaping in the house as naturally I have no intention to harm anyone and if it were harmful in any way, I would happily take it outside. Right now though I have to admit I amn't at all happy about it. I made these changes for my son with his health and well being in mind. Now I feel like I am being ostracised the same way as a smoker. It's like I am one all over again and it doesn't feel good. I think I have been reasonable by way of compromise; II don't vape in the same room as my son - only the kitchen usually because we don't have him in there much. I try not to vape in the car often if he is in the back, just the occasional puff when I feel I need it. I keep all my liquids and equipment well out of the way and always keep up to date with what's going on science wise in relation. I am just getting hassle for it now though, it makes me think what is the point? She has little to no knowledge about vaping, only that which I have shared (which she listens to begrudgingly). She is stubborn to find out for herself and doesn't think she needs to justify her requests. I have challenged her to find me some legitimate research that would give me a reason not to vape inside ie proof of harm. She is not interested at all in looking at any of what I can show her that says otherwise. Part of me feels like she is jealous that I have a new hobby and spend half an hour of my day on forums (others aswell though not ECIG related). Also I think she may still relate it to smoking and fails to see the difference despite my attempts to make it clear. Like I say, I feel like a smoker all over again. Am I being unreasonable or unfair in anyway? (ladies your help would be good here!) Seriously, I have tried all approaches but I'm at the point now where I'm seething. Absolutely livid! The reason why - I am in bed writing this. To go for just a couple quick puffs of my ECIG requires me to get fully clothed, go out in the pissing rain just to come back in cold, wet, get undressed again and get comfy just to do the same in another half hour. And again, and again, and again. As you can imagine it will be a long night. I think I'm perfectly justified, based on the efforts I've made to fully understand the habit and any potential harm, to vape inside. Some other opinions would be good though, and any suggestions of ways around this without getting into big arguments about it would also be very helpful. Anyone else come up against this? If you have read this all, well done and apologies for the rant! No one to talk to about it though. My son listens to me but at 4 weeks he doesn't have a lot to say back
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on Jun 1, 2014 20:41:44 GMT
jamesrd I second the joosejuice menthol - a very strong throat hit. I have just used the standard flavour strength so far but when I am craving a cig it really helps. You can feel the cooling of the menthol quite far down your throat so it kind of simulates the hit from a real cig. Give it a go, you've nothing to lose and as always, any problems just ask - always someone here to help!
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on May 29, 2014 11:38:21 GMT
cHooBeyDoo thank you!! I was gonna order a coloured one tomorrow. Glad you pointed these out! Still expensive though
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on May 28, 2014 20:07:57 GMT
Don't you just hate those days... The days when none of your vaping stuff wants to work? I've had a few of them recently and it's always days that I need it to work most that it fails me. Even the backups its not even that it doesn't work it just needs a tweak or a clean at the time I have absolutely no time to do either - and always all at once. It either all works to its optimum or none of it does. Anyway that aside been away from the forum for a few days dealing with real life. My newborn son is now 3 1/2 weeks and gets more demanding by the day. I love it though! How are the rest of you vapers getting on? What are you using and how is it working for you? Looking for as many personal reccomendations as possible. I will definitely be upgrading sometime in the next 4-5 weeks when I have the money to. Will consider anything, thinking an MVP, possibly as a backup. Open to using mech mods, or even just some spinners. So long as its a workhorse and robust!
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on May 27, 2014 0:42:55 GMT
Interesting I have had a quick search and turned up a few interesting links to publications in the BMJ amongst others. My immediate next step was to have a look at who funded the studies that suggest otherwise. Not so much to my surprise, the answer is the tobacco industry. Don't get me wrong I could be overlooking a lot here as I only checked out two studies in terms of funding and know next to nothing about the alleged myth. For now I can only assume it is nothing more though, generally IMO anything published or sponsored by big T has only one aim - more smokers = more money. I would be happy to read something peer approved that clearly had no affiliation to tobacco money, and if you can offer anything like this I would read it with interest. Like I say, I am basing my ideas mostly on assumption and am open to new ideas about this. As to your health, I wish you all the best in remaining healthy and am guessing you no longer smoker anyhow?
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on May 26, 2014 23:25:28 GMT
Interesting read angryoldgit. Just out of interest, what evidence did you find that was unclear as to whether second hand smoke is harmful or not? And what evidence that claims smoking is only potentially harmful? I don't mean to challenge you by asking these questions, just interested to know
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on May 25, 2014 23:22:00 GMT
I am celebrating becoming a senior member this very post not really an anniversary, feels weird considering only at the beginning of march I considered myself a noob. Now I am still using egos a factory parts, but have the knowledge to recoil and rewick, use a mech mod safely, understand vv/vw and pretty much have the know how to try mixing myself. Thanks to everyone who has contributed to my success in staying cig free and making me a happy and informed vaper. This forum sets the standard for all other IMO
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on May 25, 2014 23:17:19 GMT
Debaters society
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on May 25, 2014 23:15:37 GMT
Brains
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on May 25, 2014 22:52:59 GMT
Off topic ^^
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on May 25, 2014 22:52:30 GMT
Optimism
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on May 25, 2014 22:07:37 GMT
Absolutely
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on May 25, 2014 22:06:39 GMT
Saddle up
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