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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on Jun 5, 2014 12:14:03 GMT
Thanks folks - Perpetua, I think I have read everything in the mixology section couple of times over now just need to decide whether to buy a starter kit or not. Chefs vapour do one at £25 pound and all i'd need to add is a couple 1ml syringes. Thinking about that to get started
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on Jun 5, 2014 0:49:55 GMT
So I am totally new to mixing - as In I don't even have any mixing supplies. Been doing plent of revising around the mixology section though and seems pretty straightforward. Obviously it's down to my own tastes and a bit of trial and error, but the basics seem pretty simple. Just a couple of questions though... 1) Nic base - best to use PG or VG base? And what are the advantages of each? 2) Starter kits - worth getting one to give mixing a go? 3) Is it quite easy to do your mixing calculations with paper and pen?
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on Jun 5, 2014 0:22:39 GMT
it does after time, i had it in a i clear 16 when i 1st started vaping and after a week it smashed the tank Cheers, if I take it out on waking tomorrow you reckon my tank will be ok?
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on Jun 5, 2014 0:12:02 GMT
Just read in the mixology section that this cracks tanks? I have had it in a ce5 for a few days with no clouding and no cracks. Is it just the DIY or the premixed aswell? Even checked before using it in a polycarbonate tank but found nothing to say I shouldn't
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on Jun 4, 2014 21:04:08 GMT
May the force be with you! haha
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on Jun 3, 2014 23:40:48 GMT
Ok - do you know any really nice proper liquorice-y juice anywhere? I've got Total Aniseed which was ok, and Back Betty that was a bit disappointing - Spider Venom has had the most fizzy kick so far, but I've got a load of new juices to try tomorrow so hopefully one or more of them will be good (T-juice, Triphammer & Steamgunk). Try Afro Dizziac by T-Juice. It's a bit different but got a potent aniseedy kick to it.
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on Jun 3, 2014 23:36:31 GMT
Ripshod - I have totally overlooked the fact that the e liquid is heated. This means that anything carbon based (all of the components of eliquid) is essentially going through massive changes - 1 compound can be turning in to hundreds through hydrogenisation, polymerisation amongst dozens of other processes that change the atomic structure of the molecules being vaporised. Hey, it's a toxic world we live in. In reality we don't really know what's in our food, our water, our household products, byproducts from burning fuel that we breathe in every day, our house insulation, even our carpets if you want to go that far. Haha I say the most important thing is that you know what is in the liquid, where it came from, who made it and how and just apply common sense from there. If we were to spend time analysing every aspect of our lives like this it would be a depressing life to live. In reality nothing is good for us - even the purest of air that keeps us alive is full of free radicals. If you spent enough time worrying about it, you might stop breathing. I certainly know that the amount of chemical compounds produced from vaping must be in to the hundreds. Whether all of them are a bad or not is another question. Most certainly beats a cigarette though. As for organic liquids being better - no one can really answer this either and you are right it's down to personal choice. My preference would always be natural over artificial. Not because of scientific reasons, just an intuitive feeling. As I said, common sense is probably the most important thing when buying liquids. Will be interesting to see what vapegreen come back with about this though, I'll be keeping an eye out
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on Jun 3, 2014 22:28:49 GMT
GregI think you may be confusing the flavourings with essential oils. I am a practicing aromatherapist and can say that I doubt very much that there would be dangerous of levels of terpenes found in natural flavourings. There may be trace amounts... but a terpene reacts very readily to heat, air and oxygen. Since the flavours in question are all water based, the breakdown of these compounds would happen rapidly. Any oil based compound from anything that grows and is extracted through distillation, solvent extraction or expression are done so with preservation of these compounds being a key element. Limonene will most certainly be found in oil based flavourings, but if at all would be in much lesser amounts in water based flavourings. I could be wrong as I don't know the exact process for creating the concentrates, but my guess is as well as being water based, the liquid will be pasteurised at some point as well to combine flavours or allow it to bond at a molecular level, thus removing any of these compounds that may remain. Not saying I have the answer either but definitely worth looking into further. And I would certainly back the notion that anything artificial should not be consumed, ingested or vaped for that matter. When you get into the chemistry of what happens when your organs break these compounds down (or don't in many cases), there are many risks to your health that could arise. I can't afford liquids like that at the moment but, if my funds allowed, I would take my chance with them over cheaply manufactured artificial ingredients in the liquids I am currently using. Not meaning to debate either, I understand both points of view here, just my two pence worth. An interesting area to look in to for sure!
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on Jun 3, 2014 12:07:50 GMT
Must have some knowledge if you have a baby on the way haha excuse the innuendo.
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on Jun 2, 2014 22:54:37 GMT
I pretty much vape anywhere - pubs and restaurants I ask. But shops etc I like to make a game of seeing how well I can conceal the fact i'm vaping. Like the challenge of stealth vaping in odd places. Even when in whetherspoons I'd give it a good go. Never had someone ask me to stop so far, but if they did I'd respect it and play by their rules.
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on Jun 2, 2014 18:13:06 GMT
Apologies for the delay folks, the first vid (introduction to using ego style ecigs) should be up by the end of the week. Had a plethora of issues with my camera but all seems sorted now
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on Jun 2, 2014 9:17:43 GMT
CaptainChaos, I will take the whole lot and in return offer an empty popcorn bag and some clippings from each toenail on one foot of your choice
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on Jun 2, 2014 9:05:31 GMT
Thanks to everybody for the kinds words and wishes. Can be hard dealing with these things. We men get left out of the whole feelings part of becoming a parent big time and I think the general manly ideal is you should "toughen up and get on with it". Being a more sensitive kinda guy though, things like what happened yesterday can frustrate me and always most when I have to bottle it up. So thanks everyone for listening and offering advice. It seems that for the time being my vaping in the kitchen is in tact and I feel like I was fair in how I dealt with it and so feel guilt free and happy with the outcome. As I explained calmly to her last night she was all clued up about how "smoking did this and that", so if she was so interested in our general health and well being it could do her no harm to try and find out if there were any negative effects from me vaping. It seems this surge of hormones often creates a delay between the between thinking out loud and actually making sense. I am trying so hard to be patient and kind all the time but the no vaping got me I must admit. Thanks again to those who read and/or commented!
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on Jun 2, 2014 8:56:05 GMT
Mikes, this is a difficult one. Although I cliche, hormones play a tremendous part in rationality. I know this because my newborn is now 5 months old! I quit cold turkey but after she was born saw a massive increase in cigarette consumption so as there were complications at birth and had to draw a line under cigarettes for the well being of my family. When you go through giving birth a woman can become very protective over her newborn and herself, not wanting any possible object/person/thing to compromise their new family unit. This is natural. Hormones will be all over the place for a good while, the body can take up to a year to recover from the trauma of giving birth. I have definitely lost it more than a few times during this time. The key to communicating with a post partum woman is to listen, we will rant, scream and be highly unreasonable at times. Listen intently before stating your point of view. I say this because we will more than likely realise mid rant that we are being unreasonable! When rant is over state your case! I think you have a made a good compromise, you vape in the kitchen out of the way, but I do think that if she does not want the bedroom to be used for vaping, that she has that right as well. Can you not vape in the bathroom instead of the bedroom? When she is calmer you need to sit her down and explain from your point of view how she is making you feel and that whiles she was able to quit cold turkey not every one come and hopefully come up with acceptable areas that you can vape in the home Hey Trina, some good ideas and advice there. That's the thing - I dont vape around him. Only in the kitchen, never in the bedroom or living room. As it turns out, I woke this morning to find she obviously did realise she was being unreasonable; she had actually gone to research and find a case for passive vaping and all that she could turn up that seemed legit to her were several studies that show no effects on lung function and no contaminant exposure. She has apologised and retracted the no vaping in the house rule, but would still prefer me not to do it around the wee man, which is totally fine by me. I never would have chosen that anyway, have always kept it away from him
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Post by Mikey@Vaporized on Jun 1, 2014 23:18:09 GMT
Not an expert, but guess this may be down to the flood of hormones after giving birth. Us blokes will never understand the feelings mothers get, our job is to deal with it because they have given us the greatest gift we can ever have, a son or daughter. My advice is live with it and love your child like a lion, regards, Paul. PS I got pissed off as well! It definitely is. It only seems to be a problem when she is stressed. She makes me feel guilty about it though, like I'm betraying her by not listening to her wishes. Basically she just sees it as inconsiderate, which is so frustrating when I made the choice mainly out of consideration for both my child and her. I did it because it was entirely considerate and beneficial for them both to not be around smoke (even though I smoked outside) and I wouldnt influence my son to smoke as my mum did me. As I've said the benefits for me are great but if we weren't ever having a child, I'd have carried on smoking. So in that regard, that's the most annoying part of it all. Smoke or vape, I can't win whichever I do.
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