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Post by Montana on Jul 10, 2014 16:31:44 GMT
Ok I have to spill the beans as a friend of a colleague knows a bloke who's nephew is friends with his girlfriends sister who happens to know her mates boyfriend who sells stamps to a lady who works in a call centre for LOL
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Post by Montana on Jul 10, 2014 16:26:39 GMT
I just placed my first order with them late last night, so that's good to hear.
loggo , did you get a conformation email of posting ?
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Post by Montana on Jul 10, 2014 4:10:17 GMT
I have an MVP II and yes you can vape while charging.
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Post by Montana on Jul 9, 2014 21:33:44 GMT
Montana just a word of caution........you mentioned The UK ECig store Are you aware that they had their vendor status withdrawn on this forum for very poor custom service? Just be carefull of who your dealing with, you have found out the hard way that not all vendors are equal!! I haven't dealt with them at all , by the looks of it I made a lucky escape , but why did they have their Vendor status removed , I can see you said poor customer service, but what had they done ??
Interested in finding out why , as that would have been the place I would have gone to look at the new Provape device whenever that comes out , as far as I'm aware ( or at least I think so ) their going to be an in store item to start with, but I've already been massively wrong once today.
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Post by Montana on Jul 9, 2014 20:50:12 GMT
Well they say it takes a real man to admit when you're wrong, so that's what I'm going to do , BUT there is a sting in the tail , not for me though.
I went to take back my MVP II today, and was greeted by a very nervous owner , I've never seen a shop owner that was that nervous.Anyway it does turn out that I've made a mistake when making my own microcoils.When I made my coils and bent them over the bottom of the coil and the grommet, I pulled the legs to hard and they were slipping back slightly, just enough to sometimes give a short and sometimes not, depending how you moved the atty. What I was NOT expecting was the insults on the tanks and especially the Protank 2 air flow controller that I got.What he said was that all the gear that I had got was fake and just cheap knock offs and he had NEVER heard of a airflow controller for a Protank 2, he said the chimneys were the wrong length and diameter. All I can say is, what a way to treat a customer, even if I was wrong, he was expensive and he isn't always open and I'm not always in distance from him to get parts from him, plus he didn't stock anything more than EVOD's anyway.
He can safely say that me and anyone I talk to will NEVER go into his store for E-Cig supplies.All the other tanks etc that I've got came in genuine Kanger etc boxes with all the correct info.How dare he accuse me of inferior purchases.
The thing that got me the most, and I couldn't help but laugh ( I know I shouldn't of have , but wait until I tell you what he said ) , I mentioned earlier that he hadn't heard of a airflow controller for a Protank 2 , I said to him well it is a genuine Kanger product that I got in a Kanger box , his reply was "I've been doing this for 3 years and I know the products" , and that's the point I laughed.
Anyway I'm over it now , all I can say is good luck with your second venture as others have more choice , better products at better prices , even 90% of other B & M stores are better.
All in all I lesson learned for me.
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Post by Montana on Jul 9, 2014 16:06:28 GMT
Is there a discount code for Druids Brew , I want to try "Bread of Heaven" but it's £6 before delivery charge. Also for "The Alchemists Cupboard" , as I want to try "Hot Cross Bun"
Many thanks.
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Post by Montana on Jul 9, 2014 5:39:27 GMT
teethcv has 27ml to trade in the classified section.
I hope that may help.
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Post by Montana on Jul 8, 2014 18:08:08 GMT
I remember a program that Sir Gerry Robinson did, about reducing the waiting time for surgery in a particular hospital, they went through weeks of consultation and changing things slowly but surely , then when it was proven to be working they decided to come up with some BS reason why they couldn't carry on.
The fact that they had ALL been made to look stupid and totally inept at their jobs , and then decide to shut up shop and close the doors on Sir Gerry was a total disgrace , it just goes to show what a lot of the NHS is about.It's long overdue for a clearout and forward thinking and NON-money grabbing low lives to take control.If the NHS was a business it would have been bankrupt back in the 1980's. Personally I'm between a rock and a hard place , I have family that work and work hard in the NHS , BUT and this is a big BUT , but my wife has been treated so badly and has received P**s poor consultants on more than one occasion and cancelled operations and the last one only a couple of weeks ago was the anaesthesiologist mess up , which has left my wife having being scared of going back to hospital which she has to , to have the operation that didn't go through.
Sorry about the rant , the second of this hour so far, but certain things make my blood boil.
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Post by Montana on Jul 8, 2014 17:51:48 GMT
Let's just see what this W****R wrote :-
"Peter Hamilton, head of retail propositions at Zurich UK Life added: 'There's been a lot of debate around the industry about this but at the moment the benefits of e-cigarettes which contain nicotine versus people who smoke cigarettes has not been fully proven.
'Most of the users of e-cigarettes with nicotine are smokers who are trying to quit. Although their success rate seems to be higher than those who try to quit using other types of nicotine replacement products, the vast majority still continue to smoke or revert back to smoking 'real' cigarettes."
YET AGAIN, someone in a high position talking total BS with NO PROOF , I'm sick and tired of this.How the hell do these people get these high position jobs, as they seem to have NO BRAINS AT ALL , do I need to remove most of my brains and ALL of my morality and then I'll get a job paying me a lot of money ??
I remember my first job when I left college ( I had started work when I was legally old enough at 13 doing a paper round ) at the age of 19 , and every year these graduates came in to do work experience during the holidays , they had qualifications that would take days to read and yet had nothing to offer the real world , they couldn't do the most simplest of tasks.Looks as though nothing has changed , a bunch of highly qualified dummies making decisions for the rest of us.
RANT OVER
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Post by Montana on Jul 8, 2014 13:32:51 GMT
Thanks for that prr robby Montana jaysey good to know for the future - still leaning towards the MVP though purely down to the size & weight of them. I think you maybe right snow , the VTR IS heavier AND slightly bigger ( only by a few mm's ) , but when you use a Protank or Iclear 30 because of the design of the VTR you will only be adding the height of the drip tip and not the whole tank and if you decide to use one a air flow controller. With a Protank II the overall height of the device is 179mm , whereas a VTR with the same tank , in the region of 120mm depeding on what drip tip you use.
Also , and I can't remember if you use Evod's ( or something similar ) you can get a 510 to ego adapter ( and this also has a 510 connection ) , instead of using the really long one that Innokin supply.Again the drip tip will be the only thing showing.To me, and that's just me , I like the more compact design of the VTR ( having used the MVP II ) and the more compact design and the weight of the device makes it less likely to knock over , and also makes it a lot less top heavy.The MVP II is a little top heavy with a air flow controller and a full Protank II on it , it only takes a slight nudge to knock it over and with the slightly bigger footprint and compact design and weight it's going to take more to knock over.Also when you have a battery and charger with a VTR , if you wanted to in the future you could go for something like the Provari ( or similar device ) or ( if they still use a 18650 type of battery and I can't see why they would change ) the new Provape device when it's announced and is available.
Having said all this I still want to check all of this out myself , I think I maybe taking a trip to HERE on Thursday to see.
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Post by Montana on Jul 8, 2014 11:04:45 GMT
snow at the moment I have a pro tank 2 on one vtr and an aerotank on the other without the extender. ^^
Exactly what I've seen and read.
The UK ECig store also do ( I don't know if it's the Smoktech one or their own version ) a airflow controller so you don't get that mega tight draw that some VTR users have complained about and the link is HERE .
I must admit to leaning towards the VTR after I've had the MVP.
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Post by Montana on Jul 8, 2014 10:25:06 GMT
Montana I've got a v1 and a v2, both sprung the difference is the atty connector on the v1 rotates but is fixed on the v2. That's really interesting , I wonder why they decided to have the connector fixed for the V2 and when did they make the change.There doesn't seem to be much info out there.
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Post by Montana on Jul 8, 2014 10:14:39 GMT
Max atty size 19 km, pro tanks and aero tanks fit fine, centre pin on mine are sprung. I use the airflow controllers on both my vtr's, just screw them in and then attach your atty to that rather than taking the atty on and off continually thus preserving the threads. Thanks for that prr , is yours the V2 and how can you tell if it is a V2 other than the spring loaded centre pin, is it written on the device somewhere ?
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Post by Montana on Jul 8, 2014 9:15:13 GMT
I introduced my son to vaping and set him off with an ego kit etc etc etc. He is in the police down in Pembrokeshire and uses his vape during working hours (but still smokes stinkies other times but we are working on that) and they had an email banning them from charging ecig batteries at work........in case they explode numpties out there don't help matters do they? He's lucky, we aren't even allowed to refill clearos in our nick, just in case. No one can answer me in case of what though. It's really annoying that people uphold rules and never challenge them.I have ALWAYS been the one asking the questions , like "why are we doing this ? " and " why aren't we doing that ". Now I don't work as a Police officer , I'm a plumber most of the time on building sites , and they say you can't smoke on site , that's fair enough , and when I ask if they have a vaping/ecig policy , they normally look at me as if I've come from a different planet and this is normally the site manager , then they say the classic type of comments, like " It's the same as smoking so you have to go to the smoking area" or my personal favourite so far " We don't allow that on site, but you can smoke in the designated smoking area".
It's this kind of LACK of education that needs to be addressed , I'm not just talking about the workplace , although some jobs even I don't think it would be appropriate to vape in , like schools and hospitals , but education is the key here.I would say that 99% + of the nation have no idea what E-Cigs or vaping are let alone what they put out and everything else about them.Even most HR departments just Google it then come up with the BS that spread with NO proper scientific evidence or scientific evidence that has no relevance or just plain lies.Until such a time where vaping education is in the mainstream and scientific evidence that is relevant by a totally independent source we are on an uphill struggle , but the fight is worth it for what we know is the right thing for us and our and everybody else's health.
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Post by Montana on Jul 8, 2014 7:39:36 GMT
Just to clear things up , why use that particular air controller, is is made of a different material , or do you mean to use that and not damage the thread on the mod then if the thread does go you can just replace the airflow controller ? The thing that worries me is the wobble on the tank even when there is contact to the centre pin , as someone else said , wobble = very bad for threads.I was screwing the tank down to the centre pin and getting a contact and there was still a lot of wobble and I had to screw the beauty collar up so much I was almost running out of thread on the beauty collar and was worrying about damaging the threads on the beauty collar, one way or another I didn't want to damage threads somewhere.If that makes sense , lol.
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