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hello guys, thank for stopping by

my goal currently is to try and get some hearty and/or tobaccoish flavors/mixes going. which seems to be quite difficult, since most stuff ends up beeing on the sweet side.






i have calipitter chow here. but it is so sweet i didnt even list it. i agree tho that in very small doses, it might be a good additive to tobacco flavors





is the ginger bread also on the sweet side ? i would think so since it is "backery" ?





hmmh caramel and marshmallow sounds sweet, saline makes it salty. where does it end up ?

hello

i would like to start a little brainstorming on non-sweet flavors including, but not limted to, tobacco flavours.
when i started vaping i went straight for fruit and sweet flavours and never looked back. i think i have meanwhile vaped every ice-cream, sweets and desert flavour possible

lately i am getting a crave for some less sweet, but instead spicy/savoury/hearty tastes. i have allready ordered some tobacco type flavours and started testing. i thought maybe other mixers want to join in. 
i know there are a couple of premium liquids out there like pipe sauce for example, but in the long run those are much too expensive at my liquid comsumption per day.


1. Pink Spot, Swagger 20%: not bad, malty/nutty/caramelish but too sweet
2. Pink Spot, Curious George 20%: this stuff is awesome, banana + the virginia type tobacco flavour from swagger, but also just as sweet as swagger 
3. Pink Spot USA Menthol Blend 18%: steeping, will update
4. Flavour Art Maxx Blend 2%: not exactly bad, sweetnes is ok, but too nutty for my taste, not exactly hearty or spicy
5. Inawera Gold Ducat 3%: this is the clear winner for me so far, smells and tastes like a mixture between pipe tobacco and cigarillos. only mildly sweet. 
6. Inawera Vanilla Tobacco Pipe 3%: not fully steeped yet (will update when ready). really decent vanilla flavour, but very sweet and only marginally tobaccoish



so far it seems i only found 1 real unsweet/tobacco flavor i like: gold ducat. but i want more
i think the nutty based tobacco flavours i dont really like. maybe i need to find a few based on licorice and with a salty undertone ? what do you guys think ?

i have meanwhile tested all the samples igual. the dragon custard i can not enjoy, looks like i dont like dragon fruit (never tested before). spiced custard is funny, i like the taste of the "spiced christmas cookie" in it. i experimented with that flavour in the past and while i like it, my taste buds seem to tire extremely fast to(from?) that taste, resulting in basically loss of the spiceynes after 20 minutes of vaping. krimblefart is definately interesting, not just the name, its mandarine i taste in there right ?
all three samples have in common that the additional flavours overpower the vanilla taste for me unfortunately. i can hardly make out vanilla or custard notes in them.




soooooo. with everything tested the facts: none of the samples tastes like rubber glove, even the one with ddl in it. also i dont seem to enjoy the french vanilla deluxe.
none of the samples have the strong caramel taste i experience in gvc.


i will probably settle for a hybrid: CLC but swap french vanilla for caramel. never tested straight caramel flavours, so i need to figure out if i want tpa caramel, tpa butterscotch or tpa caramel candy. might order all 3 and see what i like most.

steeping will be done without breathing for 1-2 months in my standard brown glass bottles.

krimbleFART .... O.K.

from smelling and putting 1 drop on back of hand and lickup test i can allready tell those three will be an experience testing




no i wont, steeping and breathing (cap off) is still on the table as source of problem as well as FUBAR flavour concentrate.




i need some time to try (and retry) all the samples you guys sent me. i cant continously vape VC, i need to take breaks and vape a tank or two with something else in between, let my tastebuds reset.
will turn back to the rubber glove thing when i double tested everything.

i´ll be back =

greetings custardy friends.

2 packages arrived today. i got Perpetua´s and one package without an adress label on it. so i can not tell who the sender is. but it contains a 30 ml bottle based on cupcakeworld custard @12mg nic.

first of all thank you guys again for the samples, you are awesome !

so. i just finished the surf rider in my tank from earlier today, cleaned up and filled in Perpetuas CLC sample. i will not lie: it had me frightened and i wasnt wrong. 18mg coupled with the colour (it was probably brown a while ago, now almost black[Perpetua told me it was well aged]) = i knew i was in for a rough ride

i needed to wait a few minutes until my room stopped spinning around me before i could type this.

the good news:
NO RUBBER GLOVE ! AT ALL !

only partly good news:
its hard to taste the custard through the nic. i have been vaping 6mg since 10 months now with 12 beeing the highest i ever vaped. 18mg tastes like i would actually smoke a cigar with vanilla taste in the background. i didnt expect the nic to be that dominant to be honest. i cant inhale more than once every few minutes or my heart will start pounding. its not bad or anything, tastes almost like vanilla tobaco, nothing wrong with that. but it is probably the nic hovering over everything else.
unsure if i will be able to taste the difference between CLC and your GVC clone like this, but i will report back on that.

nonetheless the "experiment" is allready a success, since the rubber glove is gone!
i will check Perpetuas GVC clone and the Cupcakeworld one later today or tommorow and post again.

i cant thank you guys enough.



PS:  can allready tell CLC´s swetness is very good as is. i was worried if 1% vanillin+ 1% sweetener would be too much for me, but it´s not.

well currently i tend to believe the breathing method. when the rubber taste is solved and i start producing, i will split a batch and steep one half with cap on and one half with cap off (2 weeks).
i will probably solve the "breathe or not mystery" in the end and let you guys know.