Batteries: 510 equivalent to KR808D-1 Auto

[izzznet]

Hi all,

I'm looking for a slim "sealed" (see below) auto battery 230 - 280 mah, with a 510 thread. Basically this kind of battery (KR808D-1 Auto Battery (Sealed)) but for 510 carts:
www.vapeescape.co.uk/kr808d-1-auto-battery-%28sealed%29~364

This battery is called "sealed" as per maccafan's clear explanation here:
allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=newmembers&thread=10593&page=2#223564

Where the centre pin has no hole and instead the airflow is via small holes on the side:



So far, after a thorough search I've not found a 510 equivalent to the KR808D-1 Auto Battery (Sealed).

Any help much appreciated.

Thanks,

I.

[Perpetua]

I'm assuming that you're looking for an automatic 510 battery Izzznet, as to the best of my knowledge they're the ones with a sealed end.

If it is then there isn't a huge choice . . .

www.cloud9vaping.co.uk/510-Automatic-Battery-Black

Maybe try Googling that for more options.

[izzznet]

Thanks Perpetua.

Yes, not all have a sealed end (no centre hole) unfortunately. I did quite a bit of Googling, and came across the battery you linked to, but it was a little low on the mah (180). I'll check with the vendor to see if it's sealed.

This seems the one area where the 510 market is ill-served.

It's peculiar to me how the two "thread worlds" seem to have evolved. The 510 market seems the one that will ultimately win out, it's more diverse and there's more competition, but when it comes to auto batteries the 808 world seems better served and I don't quite understand why.

I get the impression from this forum that "manual" is the way to go; but I can't help thinking that when we were all smoking tobacco (pre e-cigs), if someone came along and said "you should try these Marlboros, they're much better; you have to press a button before you can have a drag", I don't see how we'd have been impressed.

Am I missing something?

I.

EDIT:

According to Cloud9's website that battery is an SLB 510 Auto battery, like this one:
www.timeeast.net/images/v/201205/13363988050.jpg
From the pic it looks like the battery is not sealed.

[Perpetua]

In all honesty Izzznet, you're on a bit of a quest with 510 auto ecig batteries, that have a higher mAH.

Having a sealed battery they can very easily go kaput, ask Macca how many SDK's he's changed from auto to manual, because juice or whatever has caused them to malfunction.

Personally, I don't think twice about using a button to activate a device, because I know I'm not smoking a cigarette . . . I'm using something that replaces the sensation of smoking, giving me my nicotine fix.

You should try a manual, save yourself a lot of wasted time . . . and you'll probably be pleasantly surprised at how natural it becomes.

[izzznet]

Perpetua, you're right, I can't really talk unless I've tried both. I'll give one a go at some point.

But I disagree regarding "sealed batteries". The only batteries that I've used that went kaput were not "sealed" (they were Innokin batteries that had a hole in the centre pin, as per the pic below) and "juice or whatever ... caused them to malfunction".

This non-sealed connection is the only one that has failed for me:


maccafan explained to me why the sealed batteries don't go kaput:

What they have done is made the hole on the sides with a larger center pin head (as per the pic in the first post), like a cartomiser air hole, instead of the older type where the hole was in the center pin. This forms a barrier preventing condensation from directly flowing into the battery, but they are not as sealed as a manual battery, simply because they can't be.

I've yet to have a "sealed" auto battery fail on me. That's my experience, but I could have just been lucky.

It seems to me that there's hardly any difference between the VGO2 or Echo Auto batteries and the EGO batteries.

Am I right to assume it's just about whether you like manual or auto, rather than whether the manual batteries actual perform any better?

Cheers,

I.

[Karma]

You'll also be surprised how much better a vape you get with manuals

[Perpetua]

As Karma says Izzznet . . . plus the selection of manual batteries is so much greater with the higher mAH's or VV like the Twist, that then gives you so many more options as to what you can use on them.

There's probably many a good reason as to why they out number Auto's . . .

[izzznet]

A friend of mine (looking into this) just sent me some info from a supplier she'd contacted. The supplier mentioned that sealed automatic batteries work by means of microphone technology and any sound sets them off. She also said that the 808s may get around this due to the fact that the airflow works in a different way.

That would certainly explain the poor view folks here have of 510 auto batteries.

Personally I use the VGO2 Auto (900 mah) and the Hangsen Echo Auto Battery (1300 mah):




... and they produce plenty of vapour for me. But it sounds like the manual batteries you're talking about are much better! I'll give them a try when these fatties finally die.

The slim auto battery I'm after is purely for outdoor / on the go use. But now I understand the issue with the 510s I'll go with the KR808D-1 280 mah sealed Auto Battery for out and about usage.

Thanks again for all your help.

Cheers,

I.