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Post by Chrissie on Dec 22, 2009 16:40:49 GMT
C&P of what I've posted on the thread in Vapers Network -
RE: Proposed UK legislation Kate, my first thought (& most likely not a very helpful one) is that as one of the concerns in that letter is the confusion of people mistaking the e-cig for real cigs. So if only we could encourage the manufacturers from producing the white e-cig with red led.
Another thought is that I don't see how they can classify the e-cig as a tobacco product, if they did, they would also have to classify nicotine gum & the Nicorette Inhalor as such. Lol, or even tomatoes as they contain nicotine Smile
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Post by foxy9212 on Dec 23, 2009 1:04:27 GMT
Another reason for the 'anti' view of e-cigarettes is that they do nothing to break the hand-to-mouth habit. Neither does the Nicorette Inhalator so that would have to go also.
I agree about making the vapourizers less like 'the real thing;' Totally Wicked are calling their PVs Electronic Nicotine Inhalators in order to distance themselves from cigarettes. Of course these devices look nothing like a cigarette - the Nicorette inhalator I tried was white plastic in the shape of a cigarette holder. It contained a nicotine cartridge and, therefore, the only difference between that and a PV was the lack of 'smoke' and it is the visible vapour that I need in order to keep off the 'analogues.'
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Post by Lilac on Dec 23, 2009 1:28:26 GMT
The vapour is important to me too Foxy, thats why i didnt like the Jazz...
I've just ordered a sample kit from ecigs, best way for me to find out what i like...
Mind you, that might be what makes people think we're smoking an actual cigarette when they cant actually see the device....the 'smoke' even tho it looks nothing like a ciggie ???
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Post by Scylla on Dec 23, 2009 3:57:10 GMT
I'm afraid my rage would prevent me from resisting the response "You effing Rsoles" type of thing scylla
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Post by Chrissie on Dec 23, 2009 9:25:47 GMT
The looking too much like a real cig makes me think of legislation they brought out in some US states when margarine was first introduced. It had to be coloured (pink or green I think) to make it look less palatable. Lol, at least my GG Grant could never be mistaken for a real cig Same with all the other mods out there You can buy an e-liquid called Stealth Juice. I think has vapour on inhale but non on exhale. Freddo was selling it (but sadly he seems to have stopped trading ) However, Amy at health Cabin sells 10ml bottles of it so it is still being made.
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Post by Lilac on Dec 23, 2009 9:49:18 GMT
If you use a mod, you have no exhale vapour Chrissie?
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Post by Chrissie on Dec 23, 2009 10:43:20 GMT
Oops sorry lilac, I I've just seen that part of what I posted is missing - don't know how I did that After mentioning my GG & other mods, there should have been a new paragraph starting with - You can buy an e-liquid called Stealth Juice I think has vapour on inhale but non on exhale. Freddo was selling it (but sadly he seems to have stopped trading ) However, Amy at health Cabin sells 10ml bottles of it so it is still being made. I'll go back & edit that last post to put in the missing text With many mods & using ordinary juice, you can in fact get far more vapour than with the generic e-cigs
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Post by Lilac on Dec 23, 2009 11:54:45 GMT
LOL I'd be interested to know if it also contains Lobelia ??? At least it must be the same as the Jazz, which has the 'more absorbable' nicotine... or do they just not use the glycerine or PG cos that's what makes the vapour, isn't it? see - im learning...methinks
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Post by foxy9212 on Dec 23, 2009 13:32:47 GMT
I reckon the exhaled vapour is the thing that relaxes me most of all - me weird!! The type you mention above would be very useful at dinners - it would save me from hiding my head under the tablecloth. I've seen bits of the "GG;" does anyone have a photo of what the complete article looks like? Fox
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Post by Chrissie on Dec 23, 2009 14:41:42 GMT
The video at the start of this thread explains the Stealth juice much better than I did . www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-liquid-reviews/35191-stealth-juice-review-misteliquid-co-uk.htmlLilac, it's interesting that the Jazz is also mentioned in the thread. Others where also asking what is in the juice. Fox, I also find the exhaling the most relaxing part. From watching the video though you can exhale the vapour if you don't inhale it deeply. Fox, I'll start a new thread about mods & post a pic of my GG grant on it
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Post by profbeard on Dec 23, 2009 14:46:43 GMT
The Stealth juice is made by Dekang (world's largest juice manufacturer). I've reviewed it (see Liberty Flights forum). I think they must have largely run out at the moment (and of Dekang's VG juive too) because www.ecis.com (Dekang's UK outlet) only has standard juice listed at the moment
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Post by Chrissie on Dec 23, 2009 15:04:43 GMT
Thanks for that info Prof - you have just saved me searching to find who it was made by I thought it would be Dekang but wasn't certain.
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Post by beachboy on Dec 23, 2009 15:15:23 GMT
Hello everyone I'm not a lot of help here my friends but one bit of info I do have is if you hold the vapour in your mouth......... it disappears! I've done this on planes, in pubs & restaurants etc. Of course you have to remember to do it :-) give it a go..hope it's not just me can do this :-)
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Post by foxy9212 on Dec 23, 2009 18:19:33 GMT
The video at the start of this thread explains the Stealth juice much better than I did . Lilac, it's interesting that the Jazz is also mentioned in the thread. Others where also asking what is in the juice. Fox, I also find the exhaling the most relaxing part. From watching the video though you can exhale the vapour if you don't inhale it deeply. Fox, I'll start a new thread about mods & post a pic of my GG grant on it :) Bless you Chrissie. Fox
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Post by Chrissie on Dec 23, 2009 20:58:44 GMT
Blooming heck! I don't think my heads screwed on right at the moment! Lol Fox, I really do need blessing as I forgot to post the link to the thread I was talking about Link now added up there ^^^
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