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Post by Chrissie on Jun 19, 2010 12:07:02 GMT
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Post by Lilac on Jun 19, 2010 13:22:55 GMT
So, we have at least another year for trouble-free vaping? good news for us then, and more time to convert many more tobacco addicts
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Post by Chrissie on Jun 19, 2010 13:50:40 GMT
It certainly looks like it Lilac Katherine Devlin who was chosen as the trade technical/legislation spokesperson, at the MHRA meeting is very optimistic about the consequences. From Rolygates thread on ECF : - "The fundamental problem for the MHRA remains the same for a new IA as it was for the first one, and it's two-fold: firstly, they don't have the first clue about electronic cigarettes, or (frighteningly!) nicotine, as was made abundantly clear at the meeting; secondly, they can carry out impact assessments until they are blue in the face, but unless they are going to force a child to drink eliquid to the point of death or serious harm, they are not going to be able to find any evidence to suggest that electronic cigarettes are dangerous. Such evidence is not available to them (or to the FDA) because such evidence does not exist, despite the fact that ecigs have been in the global marketplace for in excess of 6 years, and are currently regularly used by millions of people around the world. Good luck, MHRA, if you try to come back with another IA. It cannot be done any better than it was the first time - and we're all aware how shoddy that was! - because it cannot be done in your (paymasters')favour AT ALL! BTW, I think we may have missed a trick in this thread. That post with the link to another response? From the Royal Pharmaceutical Society? Wow! That is sooooooo embarrassing for the MHRA! I don't know if you guys are aware of it, but there exists a Memorandum of Understanding between the MHRA and the Royal Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain, which makes for rather interesting reading. Check it out (if you can be bothered!): www.rpsgb.org.uk/pdfs/rpsgbmhramou0803.pdfNow, when we consider that the MHRA has just had its knuckles rapped to the point of disintegration by their own regulators, its more than a little suspicious that the last paragraph of Big Pharma's response to the waste-paper that is MLX364 states: "Based on the very limited data available concerning the quality, safety and efficacy of unlicensed NCPs on the market, the Society supports policy option 1: 'All NCPs should be classified as medicinal products and all unlicensed NCPs be removed from the market within 21 days'. We hope these comments are useful. Thank you for contacting the Society." (Bear in mind whose products our infinitely superior electronic cigarettes threaten.) In the aforementioned Memorandum of Understanding, under the heading 'Scope and Purpose', at para 2.2 it says: "It [this memorandum] outlines the basis of co-operation and collaboration between the two organisations. This includes practical arrangements designed to ensure that the relationship is effective and that together we meet our aims and objectives, particularly when there are overlapping interests and responsibilities." (my emphasis) Correct me if I'm wrong, but there are some conspiracy theorists out there who might suggest that this borders on being documented evidence of extraordinary competitive corruption. (I'm not one of them, you understand. I merely point out that such may exist! ) Food for thought, MHRA. You might want to off-load this particular hot potato and walk away with your heads bowed in shame (with your sore knuckles dragging along the ground) while you still can. If an attempt is made to return with a redrafted IA, it can only end in disaster - and public humiliation of the worst kind! Just my opinion, for what it's worth. Cheers - let's all celebrate a great victory for vapers! Katherine "
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Post by Scylla on Jun 20, 2010 2:58:22 GMT
scylla
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Post by Chrissie on Jun 20, 2010 8:49:48 GMT
I love that smiley Scylla
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Post by jimmybat on Jun 20, 2010 17:42:36 GMT
DAM lol someone at last thrown a life line hehe another few months trouble free vaping before the panic sets in whew lol gives me time to stock up big time hehe James So, we have at least another year for trouble-free vaping? good news for us then, and more time to convert many more tobacco addicts
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Post by Tabs-cat on Jun 20, 2010 21:58:50 GMT
This is the best news I have had in a long long time. Oh happy vaping days and hopefully many days will turn into many years.
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Post by Chrissie on Jun 20, 2010 22:02:51 GMT
Well said Tabs-cat & so lovely to hear form you again & know you are still vaping
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Post by Perfectionist on Jul 13, 2010 21:19:08 GMT
Don't mean to be a party pooper - but realistically speaking, this is actually bad news peeps .......
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Post by foxy9212 on Jul 13, 2010 22:57:32 GMT
Don't mean to be a party pooper - but realistically speaking, this is actually bad news peeps ....... Oh Perfectionist! You really are a negative soul! In what way do you consider this to be "actually bad news peeps?" I'm perfectly aware that there are forces at work hell-bent on banning 'unlicensed' nicotine products (with the exception of tobacco products of course) but, surely, any delay to the proposed ban is good news for vapers is it not? Fox
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Post by Scylla on Jul 13, 2010 23:02:36 GMT
Perfy, do you know something that we don't? scylla
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Post by hissie on Jul 13, 2010 23:07:48 GMT
Have I still got time to buy some more samples before stocking up on juices I like?
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Post by Lilac on Jul 13, 2010 23:41:16 GMT
Hell, yes, Hissy...your tastes will take awhile to settle, so best to wait till then before you bulk buy juices, i've prob about 60ml of juices i wish i'd never bought
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Post by lolli on Jul 14, 2010 16:42:39 GMT
*waves to (((Lilac)))*
AND the same flavour will differ with different suppliers.
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Post by Lilac on Jul 14, 2010 16:54:25 GMT
Waves back to Lollibum yes, indeed they do.... *back to ironing>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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