Tobacco product regulation

[Roger]

Cheers Giles, I wasn't trying to have an argument with you, just to point out that there are some rules, not many as you point out. More standards (rules,whatever) will come, we just have to hope that they are not too draconian.

Re. unscrupulous vendors, I was in no way inferring that any of the ones listed on AAEC are like that, there are many more vendors outside of our list and some of them are sharks.

[yorkcitytom]

Let's face it, claiming that something which is secreted by the tobacco plant is not a tobacco product is pretty nonsensical. My feeling is that NRT products were classed as 'non tobacco products' to avoid large taxes which would have negated governments encouraging people to use them to try and quit.

I can't see any government having a similar relaxed view towards a product which, when all is said and done, mimics smoking, however effective in getting people away from smoking cigarettes it is.

Personally, I'm still so happy to not be smoking, that I wouldn't care if vaping cost me as much as smoking used to-which I don't for one second think it may one day. It WILL attract some taxation though, no doubt about it.

[lobeydosser]

Nicotine has been used in this country since the early 1800's as a pest control chemical and I do believe that it is still used extensively by "organic farms" because as it is extracted from vegitable matter, it is deemed to be envirnomentally friendly (???).

Any future changes in tax concerning nicotine where it is not already covered in tobacco smoking etc, will, I feel, have to be specifically targeted. IE, Nic based pg/vg liquids.

Because Nicotine is used in so many products other than smoking ones, even although we are saying that come the Spring the MHRA will be reporting back to the government, I would not expect to see any changes pushed through any time soon.
There will have to be considerable consultation take place between all the parties that use Nicotine before we see anything that relates to e-cigs and their juices.

[ChillerVapes]

I think I may have found a way to get around ANY tax which may be issued on tobacco products...
Get your nicotine from another plant. Someone must supply it.
www.ehow.com/list_7377348_plants-containing-nicotine.html

[moonraker]

isnt some nicotine made in a lab by the chinese ?

[azzie]

Nov 18, 2012 16:18:34 GMT ChillerVapes said:

I think I may have found a way to get around ANY tax which may be issued on tobacco products...
Get your nicotine from another plant. Someone must supply it.
www.ehow.com/list_7377348_plants-containing-nicotine.html

Belladonna

Belladonna, also known as deadly nightshade, is an extremely toxic plant. Both the leaves and berries contain a number of toxic alkaloids. Significant levels of nicotine are present in the leaves of Belladona.



..erm maybe not

[giles]

Nov 18, 2012 15:16:11 GMT lobeydosser said:

Because Nicotine is used in so many products other than smoking ones, even although we are saying that come the Spring the MHRA will be reporting back to the government, I would not expect to see any changes pushed through any time soon.
There will have to be considerable consultation take place between all the parties that use Nicotine before we see anything that relates to e-cigs and their juices.

Maybe I'm being too pessimistic, but I don't think it would be that hard to ban or heavily tax nicotine juices. After all, alcohol is also used industrially, but you can't easily buy industrial alcohol (or import alcohol without paying duty). Presumably the stuff farmers spray on crops is an extremely low % nic.

Also I don't trust the consultation process. They could consult the big pharma companies, maybe Tescos/Boots, and leave it at that. Might have already for all we know.