EU Poised to Ban Electronic Cigarettes

[divegirl]

''Hopefully the NICE report will be a bit more level headed and less of the e-cigs ate my baby type sensationalism.''

Love that!

This is the problem isn't it, the man on the street has so little say in anything these days! One can but hope for common sense to prevail [tongue firmly in cheek there].

Oh well, on the bright side, number one son [age 21] has said he'll move out if I start smoking again....every cloud and all that lol I jest of course, no way would I ever go back down that route!!! Think I may have to get a handbag like esmecullen's and go kick some MP arse!

Lisa x

[divegirl]

Dec 6, 2012 11:45:40 GMT raid2506 said:

Looks like I'm going back to growing my own tobacco, think I still have seed somewhere.

Tobacco you say....

[raid2506]

Dec 6, 2012 12:06:12 GMT divegirl said:

Dec 6, 2012 11:45:40 GMT raid2506 said:

Looks like I'm going back to growing my own tobacco, think I still have seed somewhere.

Tobacco you say....

Yup, perfectly legal, no extra taxes or duty on seeds.

Grow it in your garden, conservatory or greenhouse. Some varieties grow up to 2m tall and thats a lot of leaves! Get up to half a kilo of useable leaves from your average plant.

Only real expense is making a suitable drying environment as it's pretty damp in the UK. Most people use a converted shed with low output heater.

I only grew a few testers and failed miserably at the drying

[raid2506]

Need to research how they get the juice out now, probably don't need to dry it for that?

[vapee]

I think liquid containing nicotine is banned in australia and thailand but still makes its way there, besides pg will always be around, same with flavourings - some are not ecig specific anyway. Batteries + chargers will be around too, same with rebuildable accessories, even rebuildable attys are made up of tubes and screws - cant really ban that.
Yea the fact that shops dedicated to sellings bongs, scales, baggies, etc are all over the place means nicotine is the only thing they can look at, maybe the easiest way is to extract it from nrt products lol

[suede]

Raid go to the mixing section there's a load of advise on how to do that. So all this is based on a "leaked memo" that is going to "recommend" the banning of what?-nicotine- ecigs--juice. I really don't think so. In my experience were there's a buck to be made the governing bodies are quick to jump on board. And that is more than likely what they will eventually do. The industry is thriving (one only has to look at the number of newbies that join this forum daily) Do you really think they will kill the golden calf that easily? Yes you may end up paying more for things but like most things in life there will always be a way round it. Where there's a will there's a way.

[saphire]

signed the UK one for now, can"t seem to get the other one to display.

[bomberharris]

omg didnt realise the EU are poised to ban e cigs, what hell am going to do, think i'll be looking for a strong branch on a tree and a rope , not realy cant see why they are thinking of banning these they should ban real fags , as ecigs are the healthier option . ???

[alvoram]

Dec 6, 2012 11:04:26 GMT kibbster said:

If the whole country switched from Tobacco to e-cigs tomorrow the country would be in trouble with the lost revenue.
Not that it's ever going to happen, but each vaper costs the UK government money in lost revenue... they don't like that and are unlikely to stand for it when they notice enough people doing it (i.E They lose an appreciable amount of revenue.)

I was under the impression that smokers cost the tax payer more than they give in by paying tobacco duty, they are a massive drain on the NHS.

[vapee]

Its strange why many other countries cigs cost way less than here, I mean on the continent it can be 2x, 3x, 4x less, seems they run the nhs finances here by getting all the numbers in a spreadsheet, then writing it on pieces of paper then stick it in a hat and output the answer hehe

[Deleted]

This would only make logical sense if all nicotine prodcuts were banned outright. As long as there is a smoking industry, there will be a cessation product industry. The tobacco companies and pharmas are seeing a small but growing erosion of profits by the vaping industry which is unregulated and out of their control. As soon as one of them gets involved in ecigs, this will change. BluCig in the US (skycig kit originators) are already owned by a tobacco company. Since the heart of ecigs is in China, it has a wider global economic/political implication in light of the EU motivation.

Basically I see this as a delaying tactic by probably pharma sponsored companies to try and delay the ecig spread and further profit/tax loss. Sooner or later ecigs will become regulated and cost will increase. Vaping won't stop, just who you choose to buy from. We are in a golden age, vaping buddies but this will alter soon I suspect. Watch out for a Phillip Morris Marlborough ecig or a Nicorette one within 5 years ...

[Deleted]

Having said all that, there is no harm in buying a Bolt Mod, a rebuildable atty and 10 litres of 18mg 555

[vapee]

i wonder if theyll one day have a 10 pack of genesis attys instead of the current carts, but for the same price and good quality too lol, all pre filled with nice liquid

[kickit]

I haven't gone back too far, but the articles to which the OP relates can be found online as far back as July. Clearly, the EU, if they are "poised", have been poised for quite a few months now. Yet nothing seems to be happening. My glass is at least half full.

[vapee]

Yea I think they were "poised" about 3 or 4 years ago too, I remember they were saying that uk vendors would have to shut shop back then but its become bigger than ever. Hopefully theyve been spending this time putting cash into testing things and not sitting around waiting for the vendors to put up cash to test instead.