taking the plunge!

[Ratfinkz]

Atm I'm all about making vaping cheaper for myself. HAve learnt how to coil my vivi's, although I'm about to get a better attie or two as am sick of the vivi's constantly leaking, and now I can coil can go for a proper rebuildable.

I also want to learn to mix. I've ordered the following from post modern smoking and wondered if I need anything else? I know ethyl maltol, Stevia, vape wizard etc are all things that 'can' be used but are any vital for beginners? DOn't want to run before I can walk if I don't need to!!!
Liquid Crystal 54 - Nicotine Liquid - 100ml LC-NIC-

100

£15.95 Ordered: 1 £15.95

Aqueous Vegetable Glycerin (VG) 100ml VG-100 £3.49 Ordered: 1 £3.49

Propylene Glycol (PG) 100ml PG-100 £3.49 Ordered: 1 £3.49

Measuring/Filling Syringe

Size

2ml

SYR-2 £0.25 Ordered: 5 £1.25

Measuring/Filling Syringe

Size

5ml

SYR-5 £0.40 Ordered: 5 £2.00

Measuring/Filling Syringe

Size

10ml

SYR-10 £0.55 Ordered: 3 £1.65

Blunt Filler Needle

Size

18G

NEEDLE-

18G

£0.35 Ordered: 1 £0.35

Blunt Filler Needle

Size

14G

NEEDLE-

14G

£0.40 Ordered: 1 £0.40

Dropper Bottles

Size

10ml

D-

BOTTLE-

10

£0.45 Ordered: 5 £2.25

30ml Measuring Cup 30ml-

MCup

£0.15 Ordered: 3 £0.45

12ml Flavour Anise FA-

Anise-10

£2.99 Ordered: 1 £2.99

12ml Flavour Cinnamon FA-

Cinna-

10

£2.99 Ordered: 1 £2.99

12ml Flavour Coconut FA-

Cocon-

10

£2.99 Ordered: 1 £2.99

12ml Flavour Chocolate FA-

Choco-

10

£2.99 Ordered: 1 £2.99

12ml Flavour Caramel FA-

Caram-

10

£2.99 Ordered: 1 £2.99

12ml Flavour Blackberry FA-

Blackbe-

10

£2.99 Ordered: 1 £2.99

12ml Flavour Apple FA-

Apple-

10

£2.99 Ordered: 1 £2.99

12ml Flavour Banana FA-

Bana-10

£2.99 Ordered: 1 £2.99

12ml Flavour Spearmint FA-

Spear-

10

£2.99 Ordered: 1 £2.99

12ml Flavour Menthol Arctic FA-

Menth-

10

£2.99 Ordered: 1 £2.99

12ml Flavour Fresh Cream

I thought I'd keep this thread as a kind of diary of learning, where I let you know how I'm getting on, ask questions etc, and maybe it'd be useful for future learners?

[Perpetua]

Looks like you've covered all bases there Sarah, I'll look forward to your diary updates.

[giles]

I don't think you need Vape wizard or Stevia to start, but I guess it depends what recipes you are going for.

Seems like a lot of syringes to me (I use 2 total) and lot of juices. If you expect to use them all, you may need more bottles, if you don't have some empties saved. I'd get some bigger ones - 20 or 30ml.

Do you have an atty or two you can use to drip?

[smoothnshiny]

I'm thinking of having a go at mixing in the new year so I'll be keeping an eye on your progress and hopefully pick up a tip or three.

good luck and keep us posted

[vapee]

looks good I like the fruit flavours too, I think some might need a bit of sweetening and other additions though, but others can be fine.
The cinnamon I think u have to be careful with some tanks, never used it though in mixes or as pre mde, but maybe thats due to certain % use of it. Metal and polypropylene tanks should be fine though.
Its nice to have a load of empty bottles for testing a mix of all the flavours at first and then if u wanna mix 2 together or try a few things out.
Someone posted this site here the other day and it has so many types of bottles and great prices. Havn't got any off them yet but theyve got some interesting items:
www.ampulla.co.uk/CLEAR-BOTTLES-30ml---1L-/c-1-121/

Thanks to whoeever posted that link cant remember who

[dizzi]

Dec 10, 2012 6:32:00 GMT Ratfinkz said:

Liquid Crystal 54 - Nicotine Liquid - 100ml LC-NIC-
Aqueous Vegetable Glycerin (VG) 100ml VG-100 £3.49 Ordered: 1 £3.49
Propylene Glycol (PG) 100ml PG-100 £3.49 Ordered: 1 £3.49
Measuring/Filling Syringe 2ml
Measuring/Filling Syringe 5ml
Measuring/Filling Syringe10ml
Blunt Filler Needle 18G
Blunt Filler Needle 14G
Dropper Bottles 10ml
30ml Measuring Cup 30ml-

12ml Flavour Anise FA-
12ml Flavour Cinnamon FA-
12ml Flavour Coconut FA-
12ml Flavour Chocolate FA-
12ml Flavour Caramel FA-
12ml Flavour Blackberry FA-
12ml Flavour Apple FA-
12ml Flavour Banana FA-
12ml Flavour Spearmint FA-
12ml Flavour Menthol Arctic FA-
12ml Flavour Fresh Cream

Looks like you've got pretty much everything you'll need there Ratfinkz, apart from bottles - you'll need more 10ml and a few 20 or 30ml for mixing larger quantities.

I'd add Ethyl Maltol (stevia is probably better value, but costs more initially - you don't need both), Cooling Agent (http://www.cloud9vaping.co.uk/epages/yxve46fvrnud.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/yxve46fvrnud/Products/DIY/SubProducts/DIY10-01) and Dulche de Leche (also from C9V). Also have a look at Cupcake World for better value flavourings www.cupcake-world.co.uk.

Also you can buy menthol crystals for about £1.30 from Boots, better not to tell them what you're using it for though. Fill a 10ml bottle halfway with the crystals, top up with PG, shake til dissolved (you may need to warm it up a bit), use sparingly. MUCH cheaper than buying menthol flavouring.

[dizzi]

Ratfinkz, PM me your address - my stevia arrived this morning and I'll never use it all in several lifetimes!

[Ratfinkz]

Awwww thats really kind Dizzi thanks thanks for all the links also - will check them out!
Just to add I have a load of empty bottles already that I bought a few months back - and I'm happy only making 10ml bottles to begin with as everything will be experiments! Looked at CCW but didnt seem much cheaper to me!

[Ratfinkz]

cant find DdL on C9 do I need those things to begin with or can I play / experiment without them?

[Banky]

Looks like you've got enough to get started with ratfinkz
I was a bit nervous when first making my own ejuice
your confidence will grow as you go on.
If i was you mix you flavours with vg and or pg
most concentrates are made with pg and make maybe
half a ml and if you have 510 atomiser to drip with
put 2 to 3 dops in to taste the mix yove made do
this without adding your nicotine that way if you
dont like the mix then you dont wast the nicotine
Best of luck.

[Ratfinkz]

Thanks Rab good ideas! No I dont have atomiser and the annoying thing is I've just sold the 2 I do have - hadnt thought of testing it all before hand, oops!!!

[dizzi]

Dulche de Leche here: www.cloud9vaping.co.uk/epages/yxve46fvrnud.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/yxve46fvrnud/Products/FL10/SubProducts/fl10-0070

CCW is cheaper cos you get more - most vendors sell in 10ml bottles, CCW are 28.5 ml so nearly 3 times as much.

[esmecullen]

2nd'ed with CCW.............some of them are quite strong too.

check out TPA ones, some great flavours to be had

[Ratfinkz]

Thanks for link and advice dizzi will spread into all the rest when I have a basic idea of simple mixing!!! Got mixing kit delivered today, will have a play later this evening :-)

[Ratfinkz]

Oops I ran out of time this afternoon, which is kind of a good thing as last night I started reading froggys thread but didn't finish it. Will finish reading it tonight and make up couple of mixes tomo.

QUick question re steeping, can I test a tiny bit before I steep, and if I like the flavour as is do I need to steep?