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Post by alanjana on Dec 19, 2012 16:46:07 GMT
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Post by fagin on Dec 19, 2012 17:25:52 GMT
All seems a bit silly, but I can live quite happily with tobacco flavours. Vapourjuice American Red and Vapology Air Cured tobacco are really nice.
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Post by Skwoddy on Dec 19, 2012 17:28:11 GMT
Wonder what B.A.T have to say about this?, having spent 10's of millions on Intellicig, bet pockets are being lined as we speak.
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Post by azzie on Dec 19, 2012 17:34:34 GMT
To be honest these proposals bring nothing new to the table and of course we have the term 'tobacco products' being bandied around again. Vague and bureaucratic nonsense as usual. To me, it looks more like they are locking down the possibility of exporting snus.
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Post by mybad on Dec 19, 2012 17:34:51 GMT
Should be interesting I don,t consider myself as owning an electronic "cigarette" but I do have a PV. Mybad.
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Post by azzie on Dec 19, 2012 17:40:55 GMT
Should be interesting I don,t consider myself as owning an electronic "cigarette" but I do have a PV. Mybad. I think that many of us (on this forum) fall into the enthusiast category anyway. These proposals will most likely affect the mainstream players (e-lite/nicolites/skycigs etc)...watch this space I guess
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2012 17:45:58 GMT
E cigarette cartridges and e liquid containing 4mg or more of nicotine will be classed as a smoking cestation product and will require a license, there's quite a lot of detail over on UK Vapers. Dave
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Post by kibbster on Dec 19, 2012 18:18:43 GMT
The trouble is that article is about tobacco products so not sure why E-cigs have been lumped in with death sticks? I also struggle to understand how strawberry flavours will make people want to take up vaping, surely all vapers are ex or current smokers?
And even if people do take up vaping for fun rather than smoking... I'd have thought that was a good thing.
I'm going to stop now, hate the EU running our country anyway so I'll start getting tribal if I carry on and these idiots don't deserve my passion.
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Post by djs on Dec 19, 2012 18:49:54 GMT
Can I suggest something that's maybe a little controversial?
Have we heard about eShish? Dave Dorn had a few to try on VT.
THIS is the sort of product that concerns me deeply, but maybe my worries are unfounded? ???
If kids are puffing away on eShish to look cool in clubs and it grows in the way I expect (fear), then how long before some youngsters cotton on to the fact that you can buy Strawberry flavour e-liquid with nicotine in and decide to give that a go? Soon enough....nicotine addiction, in just the same way I got hooked puffing on my mates smokes?
Anything that stops people starting I would put above my own needs. If we have to buy zero-nic flavours and add nicotine to them (DIY style) from regulated vendors that are licensed paying a small premium (levy/tax)...would it be so bad?
Look what happened with Alco-pops? Not great really.....
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Post by vapee on Dec 19, 2012 18:49:56 GMT
banning a flavour seems quite odd, some of the flavour concentrates can b used for cooking anyway so maybe theyll stay and just go after pre made. Nicotine strength could b a problem if they limit it to 4mg, I wonder where they got that number from anyway!
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Post by kibbster on Dec 19, 2012 19:02:15 GMT
I'm hoping that common sense will sink in at some point, but this is the EU.
Common sense would dictate that if smokers are turning to vaping, even though they are still addicted to nic maybe that's a good thing. I would say the unknown is preferable to the known when the known is one of the single biggest killers in the world.
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Post by hifistud on Dec 20, 2012 2:03:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2012 3:23:46 GMT
Just emailed my consultant, one of my MEP's (the nearest) and the local MP
And now to forward it to the press
Jane
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Post by andy01424 on Dec 20, 2012 9:49:35 GMT
sorry i class mine as a variable volt battery for a torch and the atomiser is used for perfume dispensing as well as aromatherapy[plug in airfresh work same way in principal]
besides if they want to go that way people will just make there own and by pass it ,same as making bio diesel,to can make a few thousand litres before your liable for duty on it
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Post by hifistud on Dec 20, 2012 9:56:25 GMT
And how, exactly, do you "make your own" when you can't get hold of nicotine??
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