Phoenix dripper

[Gordy]

and of those 50 orders how many should you have paid tax on?

peoples search for a cheap price over service set about the demise of the British high street and if we are not careful we will see the same for our UK bases vendors in favour of cheaper prices from china ...I wonder if you would have the same attitude if you worked in retail?

i for one want to support the UK, they are not raking in huge profits believe me

[robby]

Jan 29, 2013 0:53:10 GMT Gordy said:

and of those 50 orders how many should you have paid tax on?

peoples search for a cheap price over service set about the demise of the British high street and if we are not careful we will see the same for our UK bases vendors in favour of cheaper prices from china ...I wonder if you would have the same attitude if you worked in retail?

i for one want to support the UK, they are not raking in huge profits believe me

It`s not about paying tax on them, it`s about personal choice and it has nothing to do with the demise of the British High Street, you can blame Asda, Tesco etc, etc etc for that with their cheap prices etc. Where do you do your weekly shop? I use Tesco, why, because it`s cheaper.

[Gordy]

it is about paying tax ...the UK vendors have to so why shouldn't you

i dont think the likes of Jessops went out of business due to the supermarket... its because we buy our cameras online as they are cheaper but you know the problem now is where do i go to get my camera serviced?

[robby]

Jan 29, 2013 1:22:29 GMT Gordy said:

it is about paying tax ...the UK vendors have to so why shouldn't you

i dont think the likes of Jessops went out of business due to the supermarket... its because we buy our cameras online as they are cheaper but you know the problem now is where do i go to get my camera serviced?

We arent talking about cameras, and I dont think I would have had a lot of tax to pay as I always order under about £30 worth at a time, and then it would only happen if I had bought a Vamo or something of that nature. Usually it would be under £20. As for Jessops, the internet killed Jessops. That`s the nature of the world now, nothing we can do about it except go with it and move on. I suppose you could always blame PCworld and the like after they moved into cameras.

[Gordy]

you should pay import tax on anything over £15 including postage costs

we were talking about what happens when you buy things for the cheapest prices and how this effects certain retail areas ...the high street stores is an example and how they disappear due to the internet cutting the overheads of having a store... and i am predicting the demise of UK webstores due to being undercut by cheaper products being bought from over seas

there is something we can do about it and thats what im trying to say.... support your local stores or Uk vendors ....simple as

[robby]

Jan 29, 2013 2:49:32 GMT Gordy said:

you should pay import tax on anything over £15 including postage costs

we were talking about what happens when you buy things for the cheapest prices and how this effects certain retail areas ...the high street stores is an example and how they disappear due to the internet cutting the overheads of having a store... and i am predicting the demise of UK webstores due to being undercut by cheaper products being bought from over seas

there is something we can do about it and thats what im trying to say.... support your local stores or Uk vendors ....simple as

You may have the money Gordy, I dont. I wont pay three times as much for something if I dont have to, dont think I am alone in that either. I simply couldnt afford to do that, maybe you can. There really arent that many purchases above £15 that I have got, maybe 15. Have you ever got anything from abroad above £15 and not paid duty on it? Have you ever bought anything on a group buy? They are probably pretty unpopular with vendors as well. If so, why would you do that, it`s not supporting UK vendors or websites. It`s about saving money, simple as...
Anyway, this is not worth going any further with. We will never agree on this.

[Gordy]

the group buys are for items that cant be bought in the UK... morally the organisers wouldnt want to upset the UK vendors by doing that ...im also pretty sure they pay their import tax on them too

its not worth discussing with you either if you exaggerate the prices ....i know there are very over priced vendors out there and im not supporting them in any way but i will support the hard working ones that go above and beyond to help our vaping community... i just hope that people reading this will think twice when saving the odd quid and help keep them in business so they can supply us for years to come

[robby]

Enuff said

[scaffman69]

Great thread and discusion, im with Robby on this its all about saving cash

[andy01424]

ok lets look at it this way -Group buys only happen not that often usally happens when you cannot get it for a while,yes some will get there stuff from China but very few,some have money available some dont,end of the day no matter where you buy most end up using a good 75% of the vendors in Vendors and discount section[and most go for the discounted ones]...as for high street well the big boys killed it as well as local councils with sky high rates, if a big boy can sell a washing machine for £500 yet 6 months later discount it to £299 why not sell it in first place at that price and still make a healthy profit

We could say also why not buy british well basic its to expensive we all know why ,most seller probably work from home or maybe a del boy lock up,why not high st shop, well prices to sell goods make a profit basically wont happen unless you have another buisness within that to do it, hence price of disposables in shops not cheap....so what have we gathered from that Big boys have killed the towns,internet and chinese goods filled the void for making things cheaper...look at Teco and Sainsburys opening mini marts killing any local trade......

so basic everyone will look for a bargain somewhere now,theres not really anywhere now you can shop and genuine say "Thats Reasonable" 99.9% of the time....if you can find that product at cheaper price then you go for it.if you can find that product at reasonable cost you go fo it,
we can also say the same for ejuice vendor sells it premade your strength you buy it........ some then think hmm i can make that buy the ingredients and cut cost or i can do it to experiment now are they right or wrong in not supporting the sellers of premade

in the end theres really no balance in the argument no one will be 100% right or wrong

[dizzi]

This thread made me think so much, I wrote a huge post. Lots of views but no replies, so I'm guessing nobody's reading it (don't blame 'em, either) This is the pertinent bit to this thread, I think.

I do not have a problem with a 250% (or more, if necessary) markup - if there is no profit then why go into the retail business (or indeed any business) in the first place? There is nothing bad about making a profit, profit is a very good thing indeed. It keeps people in work. It keeps vendors selling things we need and want. Without profit, they'll all go and do something else instead. The people they employ will be unemployed. The premises they used will be empty and probably end up vandalised. The owner of the building/land will no longer be able to support themselves as they won't have the income from rent anymore, so they'll be on unemployment as well. And we won't have anywhere to buy our food/clothes/shineys.

[Karma]

I read it Dizzi

I'm just really on the fence I do a bit of both tbh! Can't resist a bargain but our UK vendors are so good at getting goods out quickly, excellent back up and customer service, so I do a bit of both!

I may have recently treated myself to a high end mod. I got it at a very fair price from a great UK vendor and I'm confident that if I have any problems they will do their best to help. It was delivered in under 24hrs!

I fancied trying a vamo. Bought from China, didn't like it, sold it on for the same as I'd bought it!

I occasionally knit and crochet. Yarn can be so much cheaper on the net, but sometimes there is just nothing like browsing in the local shop. You get a better idea of the colour and you can have a good squish So again I do a bit of both!

I decided at one point a couple of years ago to only buy locally produced meat from the local butcher. After a couple of years of no pay rises and rising bills, i'm back to the supermarket (usually the marked down stuff)

There isn't one correct answer to this or an easy answer

[skipraider]

Some UK vendors are very good, but there are some new ones just trying to cash in. When I check the contact details it turns out to be a (dodgy looking, on street view) private address.

[dizzi]

Jan 29, 2013 18:19:29 GMT Karma said:

I read it Dizzi

Thanks Karma

Wrote a lot of other stuff about high-end yarn and exclusiveness, then decided I'd written more than my daily quota on here already I just agree with you, Karma

[Karma]

There's no a daily quota Dizzi