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Post by kibbster on Feb 19, 2013 6:47:27 GMT
When I started vaping I gave up on the 2nd or 3rd day then ran out of carts (look-alike) and it was before I found this forum so I believed what the manufacturers said about them not being refillable... grrrr. Anyway, I found this site and they advised a Riva kit and it the best thing I ever did! Apart from a ciggie or two in the tricky second week I've been off fags for the second time in 27 years and have no urge to go back to them. The difference is between vaping and my previous attempt is that for months when I stopped before (NRT patches) I was always on the brink of smoking but will power stopped me. Now I can sit next to the smokers at work breaktimes and my wife smokes and I still have no urge to smoke I have now moved on to big battery mods and tanks but I still carry an Ego/Riva battery around with me as a backup because they might not be as powerful or versatile as my variable voltage stuff but they work very well and will always be there if I need them. It's the Riva that showed me vaping can be more than just a smoking replacement for giving up but a new hobby that's better than smoking and more enjoyable in it's own right.
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Post by Super-Shiny on Feb 19, 2013 6:49:46 GMT
Hi biscuitcase, If it was me i would get the Riva 1100 as it also comes with Cartomizors (with the Vision 1000 it comes with none only Clearomizors) The reason i say this is because you get to try both Cartomizors & Clearomizers, That way you can decide what you like most, Cartomizors or Clearomizers As some prefer Cartomizors over Clearomizors and vice versa... As the Vision 1000 is £60.00 and the Riva 1100 is £35.00 that would leave you £25.00 spare of which you could buy 1x Spare packet of Cartomizers at £6.00 : www.vapeescape.co.uk/boge-510-standard-resistance-%285%29~1451 x Spare Clearomizor at £5.50 : www.vapeescape.co.uk/vision-ego-rainbow-v3-rebuildable~3885 x 5ml Sample liquids of your choice: www.vapeescape.co.uk/5ml-samplers-%2818mg%29~368So now you would have: 1 x Riva 1100 kit with 10 x Cartomizors & 2 x Clearomizors & 5 x Sample liquids all for £59.50 Now that is a great kit
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Post by Roscopecotrain on Feb 19, 2013 8:33:35 GMT
Hi biscuitcase, If it was me i would get the Riva 1100 as it also comes with Cartomizors (with the Vision 1000 it comes with none only Clearomizors) The reason i say this is because you get to try both Cartomizors & Clearomizers, That way you can decide what you like most, Cartomizors or Clearomizers As some prefer Cartomizors over Clearomizors and vice versa... As the Vision 1000 is £60.00 and the Riva 1100 is £35.00 that would leave you £25.00 spare of which you could buy 1x Spare packet of Cartomizers at £6.00 : www.vapeescape.co.uk/boge-510-standard-resistance-%285%29~1451 x Spare Clearomizor at £5.50 : www.vapeescape.co.uk/vision-ego-rainbow-v3-rebuildable~3885 x 5ml Sample liquids of your choice: www.vapeescape.co.uk/5ml-samplers-%2818mg%29~368So now you would have: 1 x Riva 1100 kit with 10 x Cartomizors & 2 x Clearomizors & 5 x Sample liquids all for £59.50 Now that is a great kit Nice one Romelee that works out at a great starting kit and all from one place. And you get to try clearos and carts. As for the wall charger biscuitcase you can use any usb wall plug so if you have one for your phone or something else you can use that.
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Post by biscuitcase on Feb 19, 2013 9:13:40 GMT
You're all really lovely, aren't you. But I said that already. Well, it's true. Definite cut above any forum I've seen around, anyway.
loobey - I'm so relieved to hear you say you combined the two (smoking and vaping) until you weened yourself off the bad'uns. That was my plan, but I thought maybe it would be self-sabotage if I didn't throw myself into vaping 100%. If you managed to do it after 50 years, I'm hoping I can muster a bit of will power, too. See, there's certain cigs during the day that I really enjoy, then there's the main bulk that are just habit, compulsion, stress and all that. The cig in the morning (or 3) with a cuppa, and the cig after dinner... those are the ones I really enjoy, if that makes sense. Do you reckon I could maybe say to myself 'ok, Isla, you weak turnip, you can have your 5 cancer sticks for the times when you really enjoy them and aren't just smoking them on zombie mode, so long as you commit to vaping for the rest of the day.' Decent plan or silly idea?
flip - thank you for the alert on hydration, I had no idea. Hope this isn't too unpleasant a question, but do you find that vaping still gives you the same kind of phlegm and racking cough you get from cigs? I was wondering if the VG in the juices was any kind of expectorant or irritant. Bit angsted by a recent article on the beeb news website about 'concerns over e-cigs safety.' I mean, can't for the life of me see how they couldn't help but be a safer improvement on ingesting a load of tar and carcinogens, but I suppose the unregulated and unchecked aspect of juices (and the potentially high nicotine consumption) is a little iffy. Then again, it's probably another tobacco lobby smokescreen to protect their patch. The treasury can't be happy about lost taxes either... many powerful vested interests at work in discrediting e-cigs, I guess?
By the way, flip, did you find you had any side-effects from absorbing nicotine through vaping? I'd be curious to hear vapers' experiences on this in general. Heard a few mentions of rapid heartbeat and headaches from high nicotine doses while people are still finding the right level for them. I have a seriously addictive personality and I'm a bit concerned that I'd run through so much juice initially that I'd end up wired to the eyeballs and an even bigger slavering nicotine maniac than ever.
dee- that is sage advice. There's so many ways to talk yourself out of a change, isn't there. Set myself a deadline, though. Going to order a kit within the next 36 hours or submit to a fate worse than death. Yes, I'm going to defrost the freezer. If that doesn't get me moving, nothing will!
sjs - Oooh, another vote for the tasty looking Ego-T, eh? Wish the vendor was on the forum list here, but it doesn't imply they're dodgy if it's not... or does it? I was hoping to order a good few samples of juice, not sure if it's a wise idea to get the same flavour in several different nicotine strengths, would there be a definite difference between, say, 18mg and 24mg? Better idea to start off low and increase if necessary? Do you have a favourite retailer for juices in general, or a particular flavour you swear by? I've seen that the mysterious elixir that is 'Grant's Vanilla Custard' has a starry-eyed band of devotees on here. So many questions, I feel like that irritating brat in the back of the car on a long journey. Sorry!
Kibbster - that is a lovely, reassuring post, thank you. I have a few friends who smoke and I didn't want to feel like the ghost at the banquet clutching my PV and mournfully ogling their regulars. Think I'll still huddle with them in the cold out of solidarity, though! Do you personally feel at ease vaping in public places like cafes and such? And another vote for the Riva... crikey. Cult following. Where there's vape there's fire, I guess... it's going to have to be the Riva, isn't it.
Romelee - that's really interesting about the cartomiser v clearomiser preference. What would you say are the biggest differences in how the two vape? The clearomiser seems to win on aesthetics, and it just looks like it would keep my inner kid happy seeing how much juice was left and generally having something interesting to look at and twiddle with and focus on. I have no idea how the two compare in terms of things like flavour and throat hit and all that. Does the clearomiser give a more intense hit, would you run through juice more quickly with them? Thank you very much for suggesting a good kit for me. I think I'm going to order exactly that. So you don't think that the Vision adds anything extra for a newb that the Riva wouldn't cover?
Ros- You'd go for the Riva, too, then? I was only dithering because I really liked the look of your link to the Ego-T with its clearomisers and charger. As you say, though, best to try the cartomisers as well. And I can use my wee phone charger? Excellent! ...you know, I think the decision's made. The Riva. Think I can put the snowsuit, crampons and ice pick away and avoid the freezer for another day, thank god! Thank you all so much for the wonderful help. If there are any extra bits and pieces you think I should add to the order, let me know. Any particular recommendations for juices (especially menthol) would be appreciated, too. I'll get on to Vape Escape and start putting it all in the basket and get it ordered by tonight...
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Post by irishcas on Feb 19, 2013 9:20:27 GMT
Great post. I had a headache for 1st 2 days but I think that was more down to being on too high a nicotine level for me at the start. I feel like a totally new person now I have found level and juice that suits me at the moment I am not being at all adventourous with differant flavours. It is early days though. I have gone out twice with the smokers in work and that was more for the gossip than anything else
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Post by Super-Shiny on Feb 19, 2013 9:35:33 GMT
Romelee - that's really interesting about the cartomiser v clearomiser preference. What would you say are the biggest differences in how the two vape? The clearomiser seems to win on aesthetics, and it just looks like it would keep my inner kid happy seeing how much juice was left and generally having something interesting to look at and twiddle with and focus on. I have no idea how the two compare in terms of things like flavour and throat hit and all that. Does the clearomiser give a more intense hit, would you run through juice more quickly with them? Thank you very much for suggesting a good kit for me. I think I'm going to order exactly that. So you don't think that the Vision adds anything extra for a newb that the Riva wouldn't cover?
The difference between Cartomizer & Clearomizer i am afraid you will have too decide as everyone has different views, i myself prefer Cartomizors with the cone fitted on top and it looks quite nice
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Post by biscuitcase on Feb 19, 2013 10:10:26 GMT
Irish - So good to hear you could adjust the level and find the right hit for you. I'm braced for headaches, probably more from stress/expecting the worse than anything. Anadin on standby! Think I'll start with the sampler bottles, they're all 18mg so if they're too strong... do you know if you could use a pipette to add water to a cartomiser, or would that be a quick way to wreck your vaper? Just not sure how you'd notch down the nicotine strength otherwise, short of just hanging tight and waiting on a new order. Maybe I should order some 0mg nicotine juice just so I'll have something to drip in there if I need it?
Romelee - I'll just have to explore and decide myself! All quite exciting, really. I've got all your recommendations in my basket and I am currently going a little nuts ordering samples of 'Grizwald's Gourmet' range. Toffee popcorn, Karoffee, Jamaican Fruit Punch, Cocomel! All sound too irresistible to someone with the sweet tooth from hell. Someone please get a hold of me before I bankrupt myself here...!
This is probably a daft question, but drip tips, do they make much difference which one you go for? Should I order a few 501 alternatives so I can find something that feels nice... tactile feel of it is important to me. Hmm.
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Post by irishcas on Feb 19, 2013 10:14:37 GMT
Add glycerine if you want to make it weaker but this will also alter the flavour
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Post by robby on Feb 19, 2013 10:16:28 GMT
Echoing what people are saying here, Banky made a very kind offer of a free Panasonic IMR battery on a thread I had started about some Panasonic IMR batteries. He offered it me two days ago and it arrived this morning, fantastic offer and shows wonderful commitment to the forum. TOP NOTCH BLOKE BANKY , thanks again ) Trying to pursuade him to at least let me give him the postage back, it was £2-70. That`s what this forum is all about, friendly advice, good natured banter and great people looking to help others
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Post by Roscopecotrain on Feb 19, 2013 10:17:27 GMT
You're all really lovely, aren't you. But I said that already. Well, it's true. Definite cut above any forum I've seen around, anyway.
Ros- You'd go for the Riva, too, then? I was only dithering because I really liked the look of your link to the Ego-T with its clearomisers and charger. As you say, though, best to try the cartomisers as well. And I can use my wee phone charger? Excellent! ...you know, I think the decision's made. The Riva. Think I can put the snowsuit, crampons and ice pick away and avoid the freezer for another day, thank god! Thank you all so much for the wonderful help. If there are any extra bits and pieces you think I should add to the order, let me know. Any particular recommendations for juices (especially menthol) would be appreciated, too. I'll get on to Vape Escape and start putting it all in the basket and get it ordered by tonight...
That is exactly what i thought biscuitcase when i joined, such a wealth of knowledge and everybody wants to help everybody, it is amazing. Ok so i have the ego kit i linked to, it has been amazing, the clearos are still going strong, i have only replaced the heads on them at £1.99 each i think. The batteries have been good, did have one die on me but Vapeland swapped it out straight away for a new one with no questions asked, in fact by the time it reached Vapeland the battery was working again but they still sent me a brand new one. They have answered all my emails and tweets at all times of day, all my questions answered, they have been great and there service is second to none but you get all that from Jason at Vape escape too if not more if i am honest so it really comes down to personal preference. The Riva kit is one i would recommend and i only add the Vapeland kit if people want a super cheap one to get them into vaping. As for extra bits the list Romelee gave you is spot on in my opinion and you get carts and clearos to try too which is great. Liquids is a hard one as everybodys taste is so different, i know Vape escape menthol gets recommended a lot so that might be worth giving a go and always good to have a stock of menthol as if your taste buds start to go haywire you can always refresh them with some menthol and you can always taste menthol. If you get menthol make sure you keep either one cart or one clearo just for menthol as it is so so hard to get the taste out once there in. Hope that helps biscuitcase, keep up the amazing posts and let us all know what you order.
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Post by Roscopecotrain on Feb 19, 2013 10:21:01 GMT
Grizwalds are amazing, you cant go wrong hehe.
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Post by sjs on Feb 19, 2013 10:23:48 GMT
Hi Isla I'm sure you'll love the Riva I've never heard anyone say a bad word about that kit For juices a lot of the smaller sample bottles only come in one strength usually 18mg or 20mg from what I've seen. I started on 24mg but I was lucky enough to have a shop near by that let me try stuff before I bought it. I still use the 24mg when I'm working or anytime that I just need a quick puff then use the lower nic 12 or 18 if I'm having a chilled out night and end up vaping more. Buy some samples and see how you get on, if you find it's too weak or too strong but you like the flavour you can always buy another bottle with a lower or higher nic level and mix them. If you're ordering from vape escape try a few samples from there to start with. I really liked the Grizwald artic cherry flavour menthol juice but that's the only menthol one I've tried from there. I also loved the banoffee cream and caramel cappuccino if you fancy something away from the menthol. Although I've heard plenty of fantastic reviews on the rest of Grizwalds flavours I've still to get round to trying any others. If you're back in the UK soon there's a free sample offer from Royal Vapor which is a great way to try some different flavours allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/14679/royalvapor-mystic-juice-free-trials
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Post by Roscopecotrain on Feb 19, 2013 10:27:49 GMT
Irish - So good to hear you could adjust the level and find the right hit for you. I'm braced for headaches, probably more from stress/expecting the worse than anything. Anadin on standby! Think I'll start with the sampler bottles, they're all 18mg so if they're too strong... do you know if you could use a pipette to add water to a cartomiser, or would that be a quick way to wreck your vaper? Just not sure how you'd notch down the nicotine strength otherwise, short of just hanging tight and waiting on a new order. Maybe I should order some 0mg nicotine juice just so I'll have something to drip in there if I need it? Romelee - I'll just have to explore and decide myself! All quite exciting, really. I've got all your recommendations in my basket and I am currently going a little nuts ordering samples of 'Grizwald's Gourmet' range. Toffee popcorn, Karoffee, Jamaican Fruit Punch, Cocomel! All sound too irresistible to someone with the sweet tooth from hell. Someone please get a hold of me before I bankrupt myself here...! This is probably a daft question, but drip tips, do they make much difference which one you go for? Should I order a few 501 alternatives so I can find something that feels nice... tactile feel of it is important to me. Hmm. 18mg is a great place to start and as said you can buy pure vg from chemist to water things down but it will water the flavour down too. You can also add a touch of vodka to water things down as well. You could buy omg juice of the same flavour and put in there that way it wont ruin the flavour, it might actually add to it. Drip tips for what biscuitcase? the clearos have screw in drip tips not 501 tips and the carts take 501 drip tips and again just down to personal preference. I hate metal drip tips, way to cold but my other half loves them. Shape is down to what you like the look of biscuitcase but always handy to have a few about.
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Post by confido on Feb 19, 2013 10:28:22 GMT
Irish - So good to hear you could adjust the level and find the right hit for you. I'm braced for headaches, probably more from stress/expecting the worse than anything. Anadin on standby! Think I'll start with the sampler bottles, they're all 18mg so if they're too strong... do you know if you could use a pipette to add water to a cartomiser, or would that be a quick way to wreck your vaper? Just not sure how you'd notch down the nicotine strength otherwise, short of just hanging tight and waiting on a new order. Maybe I should order some 0mg nicotine juice just so I'll have something to drip in there if I need it? Romelee - I'll just have to explore and decide myself! All quite exciting, really. I've got all your recommendations in my basket and I am currently going a little nuts ordering samples of 'Grizwald's Gourmet' range. Toffee popcorn, Karoffee, Jamaican Fruit Punch, Cocomel! All sound too irresistible to someone with the sweet tooth from hell. Someone please get a hold of me before I bankrupt myself here...! This is probably a daft question, but drip tips, do they make much difference which one you go for? Should I order a few 501 alternatives so I can find something that feels nice... tactile feel of it is important to me. Hmm. I think you will be fine with 18mg to start with. I vape 24mg or 30mg just now which seems the correct level for me. Not had a headache yet. I like plastic drip tips as my stainless steel ones seem to make the vapour taste metalic, even though I have boiled them etc. but ss might be fine for you.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2013 10:30:35 GMT
Hi Isla, I will keep my welcome short since I am using a tablet.
HELLO
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