mods????? advice

[ragjoy]

im getting a bit fed up with the battery routine and the low power, what are the advised options.
ive had a bit of a read around but really dont fully follow what im reading.
i like the hit you get from a new battery but after 10 minutes or so the power must drop drastically and it means draw draw draw and still not get the satisfaction of a hard hit.
am i being too fussy or is there a way?!!!!!!!!!!

[Chrissie]

No raggy, you aren't being too fussy. It's one of the reasons many of us move onto the big battery mods - some of them hold batteries that last for a day & a half before they need to be recharged. The batteries are also a lot cheaper to buy, so the mods can soon pay for themselves.

Which mod to go for will depend on how much you can afford to spend & what you are looking for. For example, if you are happy with the throat hit you are getting from your present e-cig (when the battery is new & fully charged) stick with a mod that takes a long lasting 3.7v battery. But if you fancy something with more throat hit go for one that can also be vaped at 6v.

If you do go for a 6v model, I wouldn't recommend those that take CR2 (15270) batteries - it's not easy finding protected ones & they can become very unstable when used in tandem.

Edit - Raggy, let us know what would be the most important things you would like from a mod, then we can recommend some of them to you.

[Lilac]

You might enjoy a passthrough too

[ragjoy]

Jan 31, 2010 11:14:52 GMT Lilac said:

You might enjoy a passthrough too

i might get a passthrough but to be honest i dont go much on the idea of sitting there with a trail of cable,it sort of feels like i would be a bit desperate/obsessed if that makes sense.
how about this sort of thing
www.e-cigcity.co.uk/epages/es120919.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/es120919_shop/Products/%22Little%20Gem%22

ragjoy..................

[Chrissie]

I'm going to be brutally honest here Raggy. I have a Gary Dibly passthrough which is brilliant. However, I wouldn't buy his Little Gem for the following (mainly safety) reasons.

Firstly, for the 6v option, it takes 2 x 15270 (RCR2) unprotected batteries. These can become very unstable when used in tandem (ie one battery behind the other). I'll come back with a couple of links showinfg what can happen with these batteries if they vent inside a battery holder.

secondly, I can't see any vent holes - therefore if your batteries do vent ?????

Thirdly, I don't think it has a locking switch. So it could be activated if for example you put it in your pocket.

I'm not saying it's a bad mod - far from it. Just that you would have to be careful with it.

[Chrissie]

The first link is from TW's forum. I'm presuming the BB that the OP had explode in his face was a Black Bullet mod? You don't need to read the whole thread, just the OP & then check out the photos that Igetcha posted for the OP, half way down on page 2.

forum.totallywicked-eliquid.co.uk/index.php?topic=5091.0

Then a similar occurrence with the GG Grant using those same batteries. However, the outcome was very different. The batteries vented through the vent holes (oposite end to atomiser) & though they did explode, the GG Grant was hardly damaged at all.

www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/64570-gg-safety-tested-proved.html

[Scylla]

Jan 31, 2010 1:25:41 GMT ragjoy said:

it means draw draw draw and still not get the satisfaction of a hard hit.
am i being too fussy...

No, that's the story of my daily life, even with my Garry Dibley passthru via a 5v power supply

Part of the problem is the cartridges, which is why I bought an adapter to be able to use a Cartomizer (combo atty/cart) on a 901 fitting, but - and I cannot belieeeeeve this - the manufacturer deliberately made the adapter to give a very weak draw because "most people like it that way". I am absolutely fuming (ooh, a pun )...

... Later - I've been gone for an hour composing a rant on ECF, which I've had to save to my desktop to avoid losing a couple of suppliers as "friends" I got myself in such a state I think it's more difficult for rollie smokers, but having said that - I haven't had a fag since Oct 08

I'm going to have a fresh look at the mods currently available. iVapour's site being down for weeks doesn't help.

EDIT: I was obviously gone more than an hour, there was only Chrissie's first reply when I started

I have bought the Garry Dibley Little Gem and it's waiting to go back, unused. Apart from Chrissie's safety concerns, it is most uncomfortable to hold: unlike the Screwdriver, there is no curve on the barrel to provide "counter-force" when you press the button, therefore one's thumb needs to be on the near end of the barrel where it meets the atomiser, and that is rather sharp and therefore very unfriendly to flesh with repeated pressure.

scylla

[Chrissie]

(((Scylla))) so sorry to hear you haven't got anywhere yet with that adapter I know that I said in my last email to you that you shouldn't have to fiddle about with it but I read on ECF of someone adding a tiny drop of super glue to the air hole to make it smaller & give a tighter draw. Someone else suggested that if doing so resulted in the glue completely blocking the hole, you could then use a fine needle to just create a small hole. I know that sounds like a lot of messing about but it's worth trying if you don't get any other resolution.

[Lilac]

Good god Chrissie...that is truly shocking

That would put me off vaping at 6v if i'd been doing it, is it just the batteries mentioned that are risky? im asking cos in the GG Grant case, the battery on the floor beside the scorch mark look like the ones i use in my moog from Garry Dibly...

[keef]

Chrissie that is pretty scary I am really glad I decided to err on the side of caution and stick with my 4.2V single battery SD .

Mainly because I was not happy that glycerene vaped at 6V could potentially be ding something nasty.

Trog also flat out refused to make a 6V SD with 2 batteries for people .

Some battery info.....
www.cavecom.com/screwdriver/forum/showthread.php?t=7387&highlight=mods

www.cavecom.com/screwdriver/forum/showthread.php?t=9206&highlight=mods

[Chrissie]

Lilac, I've got to admit that I've not used my GG Grant at 6v for quite some time after a couple of RCR2's got very hot in it. However, it works fantastically @ 3.7v with just one 14500 battery in it.

So far, the only reports I have come across are of the RCR2 (15270) being a problem & that is when they are in tandem. Although the OP on the TW thread claims his CR2's where protected ones.

No the Moog takes just one 3.7v 10440.

[Chrissie]

Sorry keef, I wasn't ignoring you - went off to check for Lilac what battery her Moog took, so you weren't there when I started typing

Yes, I agree it is scary. What I feel we need to completely solve the problem is a single 5 or 6v protected battery - but so far they don't exist.

[Lilac]

Interesting links there too Keef, thanks

[Scylla]

That's more spanners in the works

Chrissie, when you say that your GG works great with a 3.7v battery, do you mean that it's better than an SD with the same voltage?

I've been checking out the Approved Suppliers' forum on ECF - there may be a new fillling system coming, doing a similar job to Imeo's AFS but using a 'normal' atty/mouthpiece, by the look of it - that would be great but lord knows when. I'm wary of the Mako because it has a straight barrel with the button on the end, therefore nothing to grip for the "counter-pressure", and anyway it's not available at the mo. Still more looking to do.

scylla

[foxy9212]

I sympathize with you also ragjoy. I have a pass-through and an SD both of which are very good although I find I get a horrible burnt taste as soon as the liquid drops off a bit.

I love my Titan 510 but the battery life is abysmal, therefore I bought myself a PCC case and love it (the one I got from TW is of very shoddy quality though but works brilliantly). I simply use the 510 as though it were an ordinary cigarette and when I've finished I just drop it back into the case and it charges up again automatically. The box takes both manual and auto batteries and the case only needs charging up every couple of days. I also have a PCC case for my M401/2 Evo and the quality of that one is excellent although the battery has to be screwed in place rather than just dropped in - no big deal however.

igetcha69 has reviews on the 510, 901 and 401 PCCs on his You Tube channel HERE

Hope that helps.

Fox