Health Cabin Concentrates

[Karma]

I'm sure this has been asked before but I can't find it, sorry!

What % to mix a stand alone flavour?

[oxo]

If its not a tobacco, You could try the goldilocks method.

Amount to make: 2mls 
%age of concentrate 0.3ml thats 15%
The other 1.7 mls will be your nic base and vg pg.


Amount to make: 2mls
%age of concentrate 0.4 mls thats 20%
The other 1.6 mls will be your nic base and vg pg.


Try them both in a dripper using equal amounts of drips from each to keep the quantatys the same.

If the first or second mix is just right flush the one you dont like its only 2mls.

If one is too weak and the other too strong mix them together into one bottle that will give you 17.5%

[Perpetua]

It varies with the flavour Karma, like all I know . . . but some of Health Cabin's are very on the strong side!

What ones have you got?

[Karma]

Hazelnut Coffee, which I was going to use as a stand alone.

Vanilla and Hazelnut, which I was going to mix with some Graham Cracker for a biscuity thingy!

[Perpetua]

Hazelnut Coffee . . . start at 15%, I end up with that at about 20%. But you know my taste buds!

Be very sparing with the Vanilla & Hazelnut . . . Hazelnut I'd use 5 - 7 drops in 5ml, Vanilla even less - maybe 3. Some of HC's flavours are brilliant, others are quite ' raw ' so you need to almost under flavour at first and take it a drop at a time from there.

You may also find some Vape Wizard would be useful as well, just for rounding off the corners.

[Karma]

Cheers Perpy, that's helpful!

I don't have any Vape Wizard but did think that a couple of drops of Dulce de Leche would maybe be nice in the biscuity thingy! If all else fails I can always cover any tastes up with gingerbread

[Perpetua]

Welcome Karma . . . D de Leche would be very nice in your biscwit confection.


I do that with TPA's Tiramisu, zapped an iffy ready mix with some the other day, quite vapeable now.

[oxo]

If you happen on a concentrate that only needs 3 drops per 5ml like the vanilla perputua has pointed out, its a good idea to dilute it down with some pg so its easier to dose and tweak.
Theres not much accuracy trying to spilt 1 tenth of a ml. If its pre diluted to a more manageable intensity say x 4 its 4more times forgiving.
The farts vanilla is working for me at a much higher percentage, thou Ive still got to let it steep some more before further tweaking.

 

[Perpetua]

Or just drip 3 drops from the bottle Oxo . . . why make work and have more bottles of stuff laying around than needs be. ???


Mixing doesn't have to be accurate to the inth degree!

[oxo]

Apr 1, 2013 16:16:26 GMT Perpetua said:

Or just drip 3 drops from the bottle Oxo . . . why make work and have more bottles of stuff laying around than needs be. ???

Accuracy! One more bottle wouldn't bother me, Ive a box full, I dont need in this instance as Im using farts.

I though you advocated increasing the mix a bit at a time, I was thinking in intensity, I didnt realize you meant volume 

[Perpetua]

Apr 1, 2013 16:24:58 GMT oxo said:

Apr 1, 2013 16:16:26 GMT Perpetua said:

Or just drip 3 drops from the bottle Oxo . . . why make work and have more bottles of stuff laying around than needs be. ???

Accuracy! One more bottle wouldn't bother me, Ive a box full, I dont need in this instance as Im using farts.

I though you advocated increasing the mix a bit at a time, I was thinking in intensity, I didnt realize you meant volume 

???

If you want to make hard work out of mixing, by labouring over accuracy to the inth degree then that's your choice Oxo.


Many of us chose not to complicate the process and direct new mixers to the simplest method of getting a good vapeable result.

[oxo]

Apr 1, 2013 16:33:46 GMT Perpetua said:

Apr 1, 2013 16:24:58 GMT oxo said:

Accuracy! One more bottle wouldn't bother me, Ive a box full, I dont need in this instance as Im using farts.

I though you advocated increasing the mix a bit at a time, I was thinking in intensity, I didnt realize you meant volume 

???

If you want to make hard work out of mixing, by labouring over accuracy to the inth degree then that's your choice Oxo.


Many of us chose not to complicate the process and direct new mixers to the simplest method of getting a good vapeable result.

Are your seriously saying that to dilute a very strong concentrate (That by the way will last months) is a labour ???

Inths degree may not be so important for stand alones, But once you start blending your going to have enough inths to make one big unknown, more than lightly unrepeatable because it was slap dash on the basics.

Watching what your doing and getting intended results dont take much added effort, IF any, sorry you find it compicated, lots that take up mixing will find its simple.

[Karma]

I'm only mixing for my own consumption so I'm quite happy to use 'ish' measurements!

[oxo]

Apr 1, 2013 17:03:10 GMT Karma said:

I'm only mixing for my own consumption so I'm quite happy to use 'ish' measurements!

Ok there you go

Dilute:
If you think your e-juice flavour is too strong:
*Add no flavor e-juice with same nicotine strength drop by drop
Result: flavour diluted, vapor less, no change in nicotine strength
Concentrate:
If your e-juice is mild in flavour or diluted too much:
*Add flavours into your e-juice drop by drop.
Result: flavour concentrated, vapor production and nicotine strength slightly influenced.
www.healthcabin.net/helpdesk/knowledgebase.php?article=60

[Karma]

I read that on HC website, but was just looking for a starting point really