Health Cabin Concentrates

[stewarty]

Apr 1, 2013 17:03:10 GMT Karma said:

I'm only mixing for my own consumption so I'm quite happy to use 'ish' measurements!

+1 for ish have had a few unexpected good results and TBH don't really care if they all end up the same thats the fun part of mixing, if I wanted everything to be exactly the same I would still be buying the ready made

[Roger]

Apr 1, 2013 17:09:59 GMT oxo said:

Apr 1, 2013 17:03:10 GMT Karma said:

I'm only mixing for my own consumption so I'm quite happy to use 'ish' measurements!

Ok there you go

Dilute:
If you think your e-juice flavour is too strong:
*Add no flavor e-juice with same nicotine strength drop by drop
Result: flavour diluted, vapor less, no change in nicotine strength
Concentrate:
If your e-juice is mild in flavour or diluted too much:
*Add flavours into your e-juice drop by drop.
Result: flavour concentrated, vapor production and nicotine strength slightly influenced.
www.healthcabin.net/helpdesk/knowledgebase.php?article=60

Less vapour, unlikely, less flavour, well obviously.

[Deleted]

I'm making something for my own use & I like simple, so I don't feel the need to get anal about it. 'Ish' measurements worked for the PVC I made, it's really rather good & I don't buy ready made VC now. The CherryPVC & the BananaPVC is rather nice too!

[stewarty]

Apr 1, 2013 17:09:59 GMT oxo said:

Apr 1, 2013 17:03:10 GMT Karma said:

I'm only mixing for my own consumption so I'm quite happy to use 'ish' measurements!

Ok there you go

Dilute:
If you think your e-juice flavour is too strong:
*Add no flavor e-juice with same nicotine strength drop by drop
Result: flavour diluted, vapor less, no change in nicotine strength
Concentrate:
If your e-juice is mild in flavour or diluted too much:
*Add flavours into your e-juice drop by drop.
Result: flavour concentrated, vapor production and nicotine strength slightly influenced.
www.healthcabin.net/helpdesk/knowledgebase.php?article=60

Shoot me down if I'm wrong but I thought VG influenced vapour not flavourings as they are normally PG

[oxo]

Apr 1, 2013 17:15:08 GMT Roger said:

Apr 1, 2013 17:09:59 GMT oxo said:

Ok there you go

Less vapour, unlikely, less flavour, well obviously.

At least they tried most sites sell the concentrate and leave you to it.

[Perpetua]

Apr 1, 2013 16:56:24 GMT oxo said:

Apr 1, 2013 16:33:46 GMT Perpetua said:

???

If you want to make hard work out of mixing, by labouring over accuracy to the inth degree then that's your choice Oxo.


Many of us chose not to complicate the process and direct new mixers to the simplest method of getting a good vapeable result.

Are your seriously saying that to dilute a very strong concentrate (That by the way will last months) is a labour ???

Inths degree may not be so important for stand alones, But once you start blending your going to have enough inths to make one big unknown, more than lightly unrepeatable because it was slap dash on the basics.

Watching what your doing and getting intended results dont take much added effort, IF any, sorry you find it compicated, lots that take up mixing will find its simple.

Don't get clever with me please Oxo . . . you've been mixing for a month and now you're an expert.

You can make mixing as laborious as you like if it gives you pleasure, new mixers as a rule don't need to be given extra needless complications at this stage. They are mixing for their own personal use, not building a Hadron Collider or supplying the rest of the vaping community at large.

We'll beg to differ I think, otherwise I shall get really cross at your most argumentative tone.

[oxo]

Apr 1, 2013 19:04:19 GMT Perpetua said:

Apr 1, 2013 16:56:24 GMT oxo said:

Are your seriously saying that to dilute a very strong concentrate (That by the way will last months) is a labour ???

Inths degree may not be so important for stand alones, But once you start blending your going to have enough inths to make one big unknown, more than lightly unrepeatable because it was slap dash on the basics.

Watching what your doing and getting intended results dont take much added effort, IF any, sorry you find it compicated, lots that take up mixing will find its simple.

Don't get clever with me please Oxo . . . you've been mixing for a month and now you're an expert.

You can make mixing as laborious as you like if it gives you pleasure, new mixers as a rule don't need to be given extra needless complications at this stage. They are mixing for their own personal use, not building a Hadron Collider or supplying the rest of the vaping community at large.

We'll beg to differ I think, otherwise I shall get really cross at your most argumentative tone.

I dont find it laborious, Ive tried the add a drop at a time, was quite fun savouring the base mix.

Im also having fun using my goldilocks method, it gets me in the zone quicker and playing where the flavours are is my cup of tea.
If this is the wrong place for me to share my mixing experience make it plain and say so.
The world dont spin to the beat of just one drum but if you think yours is the only advise worth listening to, what can I say.

[Karma]

I have to agree with Perpy on this one!

I'm quite new to mixing and if I'd only had you're advice oxo I would have been running for the hills and selling all my mixing stuff on the classies board

I regret starting this thread! All I wanted was a 'ball park' figure! Many sites do state what % they recommend their concentrates to be mixed at!

[oxo]

Apr 1, 2013 19:26:48 GMT Karma said:

I have to agree with Perpy on this one!

I'm quite new to mixing and if I'd only had you're advice oxo I would have been running for the hills and selling all my mixing stuff on the classies board

I regret starting this thread! All I wanted was a 'ball park' figure! Many sites do state what % they recommend their concentrates to be mixed at!

And you was give two, 15 and 20 2ml mixes at the chance of wasting 2ml perps said 15 and ends up about 20.

So you can see how close the advice was, but its not my pulpit, is it.

[Perpetua]

Apr 1, 2013 19:24:41 GMT oxo said:

I dont find it laborious, Ive tried the add a drop at a time, was quite fun savouring the base mix.

Im also having fun using my goldilocks method, it gets me in the zone quicker and playing where the flavours are is my cup of tea.
If this is the wrong place for me to share my mixing experience make it plain and say so.
The world dont spin to the beat of just one drum but if you think yours is the only advise worth listening to, what can I say.

Good, I'm very happy for you Oxo.

I've never thought nor said that my advice was the only one to take or listen to. I have however had considerably more experience than you with mixing and have managed to successfully advise, without confusing, a number of new mixers. Have you?

You have your opinion, I have mine . . . it's a pity you can't express yours without being so argumentative and quite frankly unpleasant.

[Karma]

Apr 1, 2013 15:32:03 GMT oxo said:

If its not a tobacco, You could try the goldilocks method.

Amount to make: 2mls 
%age of concentrate 0.3ml thats 15%
The other 1.7 mls will be your nic base and vg pg.


Amount to make: 2mls
%age of concentrate 0.4 mls thats 20%
The other 1.6 mls will be your nic base and vg pg.


Try them both in a dripper using equal amounts of drips from each to keep the quantatys the same.

If the first or second mix is just right flush the one you dont like its only 2mls.

If one is too weak and the other too strong mix them together into one bottle that will give you 17.5%

This may get you into the zone quicker Oxo, but it doesn't do it for me!  Had you just stated that you'd used this particular concentrate before at between 15 and 20% depending on taste, that would have answered my question!  

BTW, I can do math

[Deleted]

I've only been mixing for about 2 months or so, I wouldn't dream of giving anybody any mixing advice at all unless it was common sense type advice or a simple c/p from somewhere if I were happy with the info I'd found.

oxo you gave your "advice" based on about 4 weeks of mixing experience

I had a Google about HC concentrate usage percentages and people on various forums were saying 2%, 3%, 5%, 10%, 15%, 20% up to 30% and other variations. I chose to say nothing about it so I have no idea what qualified you to give any advice in this particular thread and then have the audacity to throw your toys out of your pram when your less than straight forward methods are questioned. Either way, you've gone about things the wrong way and damaged some bridges along the way. You are just as much a noob at mixing as I am, sit back, learn, keep quiet, learn some more and maybe advise way into the future when you know what you are talking about, that's what I will be doing and that's some advice worth taking note of.

[300]

Apr 1, 2013 15:40:52 GMT Karma said:

Hazelnut Coffee, which I was going to use as a stand alone.

Vanilla and Hazelnut, which I was going to mix with some Graham Cracker for a biscuity thingy!

Hi Karma

Sis & my better half both enjoy the HC Hazelnut Coffee at 17%, i've mentioned before that i love the smell but can't vape this one myself.

Only other HC concentrate i've used is their RY4 (same stuff as C9V) which is my all day vape, i have to mix it at 30% though!!! so it doesn't go very far.

[Karma]

Thanks 300, I knew I'd read recently of someone using this

There seems to be a wide variation in the strengths of the HC flavours!

[300]

Apr 1, 2013 20:22:11 GMT Karma said:

Thanks 300, I knew I'd read recently of someone using this

There seems to be a wide variation in the strengths of the HC flavours!

You're welcome Karma.

Difference in strength of flavours is surprising considering they're from the same place.

Their RY4 is quite thick, almost gloopy which makes me think it's VG based, i'm sure i read somewhere that VG requires extra flavour for the same desired effect which might explain why i'm mixing it at 30%