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Post by Pacer on May 1, 2013 12:04:09 GMT
I'm dam sure I'm vaping way more than I was smoking. When smoking I was on around 30 a day Silk-Cut ultra which I think where 0.1 mg of Tar and 0.1 mg of Nicotine… I have realised I'm going though around 30 ml of 10 mg juice a week.
I have tried to cut it down to 5 mg but it didn't work, I found I was vaping even more.
Anybody else find they vape more than they smoked the fags?
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Post by Super-Shiny on May 1, 2013 12:06:20 GMT
I vape less than stinkys but hell it tastes good
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Post by suede on May 1, 2013 12:20:10 GMT
I chain vape--and feel 100% better than I did when smoking. Great isn't it. Like a gift from god.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2013 12:21:34 GMT
I vape loads more than I smoked but I think its because its not killing me so I can do it a lot more, it tastes nice and there's the gadget factor too. I vape pretty much everywhere including when I'm laying in the bath but excluding shops and bed. Its not a nic thing for me, its more a nice taste thing.
If I do put it down which is rare like when I was gardening a few days ago for a couple of hours and then sat down with a coffee and had a vape of my diy Capella gingerbread it tasted so much better compared to having it glued to my mouth permanently.
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Post by neptune on May 1, 2013 12:22:14 GMT
There are several things to consider. The alleged low yield of tar and nicotine from Silk Cut is achieved by having tiny air holes around the filter. Smokers often get round this either consciously or subconsciously, by putting the cig further into the mouth, and covering the holes with the lips. So you may have been getting more nic than you suspect. Smoking is much more efficient at getting nic into the blood than vaping, so it is highly unlikely that your blood nic level is as high now as when you were a smoker. Efficient vaping needs a slightly different technique than smoking, as the nic is absorbed mainly by the nose and mouth rather than the lungs. In a week or two, your technique will improve, and you will probably tend to vape less.
Meanwhile, do not worry about the amount of juice you use, it will come right. You could even try a small sample of say 18mg /ml juice, which will probably cause you to vape less often . It is early days yet, so do not be in any hurry to cut down. Good luck and welcome to vaping.
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Post by Matt Gluggles on May 1, 2013 13:12:12 GMT
Always remember that you cannot compare the nicotine dose that is printed on the side of a fag pack with the nicotine per ml in your e-juice.
It is not comparing like for like.
Reason :
The nicotine dose printed on the side of a pack of cigs is the nicotine that is delivered to the body per cigarette - it is the dose that you actually receive into your bloodstream.
The nicotine on the e-juice bottle is the level in the liquid - it is not all fully absorbed - much less is actually delivered into your body - and this figure will vary depending on what atomiser you are using and how you vape (length of drag etc).
If you are vaping 30ml of 10mg/ml juice per week - this looks like 300mg of nicotine per week ( 40 ish per day ) - but this is the level in the juice - NOT the dose that is actually being delivered.
The amount that you are receiving is much less
- multiply the nic on the side of the pack by about 10 - and that is the nic in the tobacco leaf - you dont actually absorb anywhere near all of this.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2013 14:31:52 GMT
If I'm indoors, relaxing in my armchair, then yes, I practically chain vape. If I'm out, then it's on a lanyard & I stop & have a quick cuff when I fancy. I'm really not bothered though, as my chest feels so much better.
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Post by Jen on May 1, 2013 14:38:44 GMT
I vape around the same - 4-5ml of 10ml juice a day. I used to smoke 20 a day 0.8mg Richmonds. I reckon your body knows best and will adjust itself to the nic level it wants; as you've seen, you reduce the nic level and then vape more. Don't sweat it, just remember to put the vape stick down if you get all headachey
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Post by lobeydosser on May 1, 2013 14:57:51 GMT
As Juggler says, the amount of nicotine that is getting in your body is much less than for cigarettes. Plus the fact that in cigarettes, there are two chemicals, Liquorice and Chocolate, that when burned, produce a chemical that relaxes the muscles in your Esophagus allowing more smoke to enter the Lungs.
As a rough estimate, only 60% of the Nicotine in e-juice will actually enter your body. So if you are trying to calculate how much you are using compared to cigarettes, work it out on the 60% basis and you will be nearer the true figure.
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Post by Pacer on May 1, 2013 15:54:11 GMT
Thanks all, some great answers there. I have found a flavour that I really like and just can’t or won’t put it down. Like you Simate I vape all day… Neptune, I think I vape like a pussy Not new to this by the way, now going into my tenth month without a stinky, I did start of with the 18 mg got it down to 10 mg and that seems to be my sticking point… bit disappointed with that as I really wanted to be 5 mg by now. I was just wondering if there were many others going though 30ml a week… I’m sure I’ve seen an old thread on here with a poll and many are vaping around 10ml a week.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2013 18:04:42 GMT
I'm on about the same as you, Pacer. There was a poll, probably been a few, but IIRC the average mls a day was 3 - 3.5, so you're about average.
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Post by alijoy60 on May 1, 2013 18:13:38 GMT
My friend at work was on Silk Cut Ultra, about 15 daily, uses 18mg juice (I mix it) and uses 30 - 40 mls weekly.
I used to smoke full strength cigs, 20 - 25 daily and use 18mg juice and about 20 - 25 mls per week. We've both been whiffling about 16 months and can do so at our desks at work, so same amount of opportunity (which is pretty constant!).
I started her off on 11mg juice, but it was too low. Think it just proves we're all different - it does mean though, when advising new starters, I always tell them to not worry too much about strengths of liquids and to experiment a bit if they feel the need - the guides are exactly that, a guide. I was lucky - started on 18mg and it suited me right away!
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Post by Karma on May 1, 2013 18:15:52 GMT
I'm on about the same as you, Pacer. There was a poll, probably been a few, but IIRC the average mls a day was 3 - 3.5, so you're about average. I'm above average, and proud
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2013 18:21:40 GMT
Good & so you should be, Karma! Actually, I've just had a tot up whilst filling up my Nova & realised I'm on 4ml + a day. I blame it on the fact that I have 2ml clearos now.
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Post by Pacer on May 1, 2013 19:25:53 GMT
I'm on about the same as you, Pacer. There was a poll, probably been a few, but IIRC the average mls a day was 3 - 3.5, so you're about average. Well that makes me feel a bit better Jess… Wouldn't want to get into bad habits I seriously thought I was being greedy from that poll last year; I seem to think, or remember most were doing 5 > 10ml a week.
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