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Post by bazzer343 on Sept 8, 2013 12:37:52 GMT
OK I have read the bits on mixing and also got a calculator. I've made my first mix of banana at 20% and that was far to strong it also cracked my ce4. so I am about to make another one but dropping down the flavour mix but the piece I read about start low and increase is what's bothering me. if I was to start say at 5% and it was weak I can add more flavour to the mix I have done, if I've read it right. But I also have to increase pg and vg so how much would you put in if your mix was already done. Or can you just add extra flavour in the mix. The calculator wont do half calculations will it
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Post by dragon on Sept 8, 2013 13:06:30 GMT
I just add drops and guess how much % the flavour now is. Once I get a bead on how much I need I make up a proper batch.
You could make up a mix of 0 flavour with the right amount of nic pg/vg and mix the 2 together?
I have read that banana is a tank cracker, but it surprises me, I have been vaping banana for about a year and haven't once had a problem. I used to vape premixed DV banana in CE4s and now vape DV banana mixed at 10% in iClear16s. I keep an eye on the plastic in all my clearos and the banana one is just fine, after months of sitting with juice in constantly.
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Post by Pam O on Sept 8, 2013 13:15:39 GMT
Just add more drops of the concentrate to make the flavour stronger. I have made up 30 mls of 70pg/30vg 16mg nic plain juice with no flavour to dilute down any mixes that might be too strong, that way you don't loose the nic level while you dilute the flavour a bit.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2013 14:09:13 GMT
Along with the suggestions above, to remedy what you have made already. Howsabout make some up, but leave nic liquid out, just do small amounts of nic free, so you can test & get the flavour percentage right that suits you & then make up your nic juice.
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Post by Perpetua on Sept 8, 2013 19:04:23 GMT
Whose Banana concentrate is it Bazzer . . . if you told us that then someone may be able to advise you on what percentage to use to save some faff.
I've always used TPA's Ripe Banana at 15%, which gives me a good flavour and despite being on the list of tank crackers, I've not had any problems with it.
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Post by giles on Sept 8, 2013 19:25:57 GMT
If you still have some of the 20% then I think dragon has it right - mix some 0% flavour, using the calculator, to your preferred nic strength & PG/VG ratio. Then try mixing 1.5 ml of that to 0.5 ml of the 20%, which will give you your 5% flavour mix. If that is much too weak (probably) put (say) another another 1 ml of the 20% in it which will give you a 10% mix, and try that. And so on. If you don't have any of the 20% left I'd use the calculator as if I was going to make a 10% flavour, but actually only put in 5%, and try that. Then if its too weak, add drops of flavour until it seems about right. If the 5% flavour is right for you then the juice will be a bit stronger in nic than your plan, but not enough to care about, and you can adjust it when you do the next batch.
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Post by bazzer343 on Sept 8, 2013 19:50:27 GMT
I got the banana from LT so that's the only label on it bought it as a starter pack
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Post by Karma on Sept 8, 2013 20:15:25 GMT
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Post by bazzer343 on Sept 8, 2013 20:27:47 GMT
It does now but was just part of a starter pack and didn't say nothing when ordered except banana lol now it makes sense
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Post by Karma on Sept 8, 2013 20:29:36 GMT
It is a steep learning curve at times bazzer343 you'll soon suss it out
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Post by Balllsy on Sept 8, 2013 20:51:48 GMT
Just add more drops of the concentrate to make the flavour stronger. I have made up 30 mls of 70pg/30vg 16mg nic plain juice with no flavour to dilute down any mixes that might be too strong, that way you don't loose the nic level while you dilute the flavour a bit. What a great tip Pam & dragon ! Thanks.
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Post by bazzer343 on Sept 9, 2013 4:38:53 GMT
Knew it would all come together lol but wish Lt would put something on bottle except an LT sticker with banana on it lol
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Post by Perpetua on Sept 9, 2013 6:24:04 GMT
Knew it would all come together lol but wish Lt would put something on bottle except an LT sticker with banana on it lol I'd like to see a warning that a concentrate can be a tank cracker must admit Bazzer on all flavouring bottles that can do it, percentages are more tricky as we've all got such differing taste buds. I always give a flavouring the ' lick ' test just to get an idea of how intense it might be, whilst it's not a hard and fast, it does give an indication. If all else fails, start low and work up!
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Post by bazzer343 on Sept 18, 2013 18:30:03 GMT
Lol what's the lick test don't tell me you taste it on your tongue
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Post by Perpetua on Sept 18, 2013 18:40:21 GMT
Lol what's the lick test don't tell me you taste it on your tongue Of course . . . why would I not, they are suitable for flavouring food Bazzer. Many of the concentrates were designed for such, we've just poached them for flavouring eliquid.
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