re fake grants vanilla custard from Jimmy

[Roscopecotrain]

Oct 29, 2013 12:20:08 GMT Chrissie said:

I've just banned both ids. He logged on with both of the ids from the same IP just over an hour ago, so he will have seen that he has been caught out.

Dam some people really get to me. I cant believe all this.
Huge kudos to kev and grant for sorting dale out.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2

[mike weaver93]

Looking at 'Jimmy's threads, he created it appears, all of them relate to buying or selling.
Call me a sceptic, but it looks a bit suspicious.

Would be interesting if 'Grant' would look on his previous orders, see how many bottles of GVC -Jimmy has previously ordered,and when.

Kudos to Grant & Kev, for helping Daleson.

Wonder if it would be an idea for the Mods ,to inform other ECig forum Mods, regarding this matter.

[Chrissie]

Oct 29, 2013 12:45:00 GMT mike weaver93 said:

Looking at 'Jimmy's threads, he created it appears, all of them relate to buying or selling.
Call me a sceptic, but it looks a bit suspicious.

Would be interesting if 'Grant' would look on his previous orders, see how many bottles of GVC -Jimmy has previously ordered,and when.

Kudos to Grant & Kev, for helping Daleson.

Wonder if it would be an idea for the Mods ,to inform other ECig forum Mods, regarding this matter.

Mike, we know that jimmy didn't buy the bottle directly from grant. Hence why to begin with, I gave him a bit of the benefit of the doubt.

jimmy had a previous classified thread pulled as he was selling something on that he bought from Fasttech at a profit & showing the UK RRP in his ad. I think that's one of the reasons he created the odj id - to make it harder for us to keep track of what he was buying & selling on

As I know that jimmy is a member on UKV, I have informed one of their excellent moderators.

[ginge7289]

I have been watching this closely to see where it was going to go. Jimmy put up 2 for sale threads on the same day, the Spheroid and leo (Which I purchased) and the GVC.

I started to get a little worried at the weekend after the lack of communication with jimmy as I had just parted with £120 via paypal gift. But he came through and my item arrived, later than I expected, but still arrived as described.

Now if this guy was out to rob people then surely he would have just taken the £150 he made that day and not bothered sending either items?

NOW I AM NOT STICKING UP FOR HIM HERE AS HE SHOULD HAVE REPLIED IN THIS THREAD OR A PM -

But is it possible he traded that juice thinking it was GVC? He tried it and did not like it then put it up for sale? The juice in the bottle could already have been something else when he got it?

Either way he should still stand up and be counted but I am just putting another spin on it before everyone goes out on a witch hunt.

[Roger]

Just doing a bit of searching and he (jimmy) appeared to buy a 100ml bottle of GVC on UKV on 14/10/13. He put a 97ml bottle up on here on 18/10/13. Coincidence?? Whatever, it does not excuse his failure to communicate with the OP and save himself a load of grief.

[Ron]

I bought two things from jim (odj) in the last fortnight totalling over £100 both arrived safely.the last item was late but he did come on later and tell me his father had died.Could this week have been the funeral

[Chrissie]

Oct 29, 2013 15:30:23 GMT Ron said:

I bought two things from jim (odj) in the last fortnight totalling over £100 both arrived safely.the last item was late but he did come on later and tell me his father had died.Could this week have been the funeral

I doubt it ron as he told someone else quite some time ago that he dropped out of a deal due to his father dying

Also, when he was last online, a couple of hours before I banned him, he joined with yet another new id.

[millerkev]

If jimmy had bought the bottle decided he didn't like it then sold it on...
Surely after logging in and seeing his pm and obviously this thread. . It as been near the top for the last 2 days after all
Then the decent thing would just to say sorry explain what happened and offer a refund of monies paid :-))
That would have solved everything would it not

Sorry but I'm with chrissie on this one

[Roger]

Oct 29, 2013 16:16:21 GMT millerkev said:

If jimmy had bought the bottle decided he didn't like it then sold it on...
Surely after logging in and seeing his pm and obviously this thread. . It as been near the top for the last 2 days after all
Then the decent thing would just to say sorry explain what happened and offer a refund of monies paid :-))
That would have solved everything would it not

Sorry but I'm with chrissie on this one

I'm not defending his actions at all, I'm with both of you    As I said, it doesn't excuse him not replying on the thread and sorting it out one way or the other.  Just seems odd that if it was that same bottle he would have grounds to 'have words' with who he bought it from.

[daleson]

Jimmy as been in touch at last and asked me to send him it back and he will refund me But i cant send him it as i did what Grant asked me to do and bin it ..But not bothered as grant is kindly sending me some out ..

[dickyg]

Presumably he wants it back to try his luck flogging it again on some unsuspecting person. In some ways I can see he has a defence if he bought it on the classies and then sold it on if he didn't like it. Had he replied quickly then maybe this could have been avoided. Being a cynical bugger I believe there's more afoot than that.

[daleson]

Oct 29, 2013 19:29:12 GMT dickyg said:

Presumably he wants it back to try his luck flogging it again on some unsuspecting person. In some ways I can see he has a defence if he bought it on the classies and then sold it on if he didn't like it. Had he replied quickly then maybe this could have been avoided. Being a cynical bugger I believe there's more afoot than that.

Its now out of circulation So it cant be sold on again ...But at least Jimmy offered unfortunatly his response to my pm was too late

[dickyg]

Oct 29, 2013 19:38:09 GMT daleson said:

Oct 29, 2013 19:29:12 GMT dickyg said:

Presumably he wants it back to try his luck flogging it again on some unsuspecting person. In some ways I can see he has a defence if he bought it on the classies and then sold it on if he didn't like it. Had he replied quickly then maybe this could have been avoided. Being a cynical bugger I believe there's more afoot than that.

Its not out of circulation So it cant be sold on again ...But at least Jimmy offered unfortunatly his response to my pm was too late

Yep I realise it's out of circulation, but if he didn't like it and that was the reason for sale why would he want it back? 

[millerkev]

I agree most honourable thing jimmy can do now is just refund you anyway for all the shit he has caused
Just my 2 bobs worth :-))

[a1laserboy]

Just out of interest, please don't think I might be defending him - i am not in any way, I thought he was dodgy since what I saw some time ago:

Is it not possible that multiple people can connect to the internet through the same router and thus show the same ip address? I just searched whats my ip on google on my laptop and on my phone and both came back with the same address.

Were both users online at the same time, or one after the other? if at the same time, then possibly may not have been him, unless he is smart enough to use two different browsers to have two sessions open at the same time (or 2 devices). I have logged into some 'specialist' sites with 4 different browsers and 4 different users at the same time before.

Does your logging include device type/browser/operating system used to access the forum?


As I said, I'm not condoning what he did in any way, just felt it worth balancing the 2 users from the same ip issue (though I expect it was him).