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[4madcats]

Latest from Chris Davies MEP

www.chrisdaviesmep.org.uk/meps_win_victory_for_e_cigs?recruiter_id=2

[monty]

Well they've got down to the bare bones of their policy:-

Ban the ecigs that enable smokers to give up tobacco
Alllow the ones which don't

They're not stupid at all. They just don't care how many people they kill so long as they get their cut of the profits.

[kibbster]

News just in as 4madcats says.
Still a fiasco and details going up and down like a cheap Thai hooker.

20mg limit (shit)
No ban on refillables till review in 2016 (could be screwed in 2016 but we can work on it.)
Flavours decided by regional governments (WTF)

[ant]

But in Chris Davies eyes this is a victory, WTF!

[fiddles]

quote from ecrgroup.eu/news/eu-set-to-introduce-draconian-overregulation-of-e-cigarettes/

EU set to introduce draconian overregulation of e-cigarettes
Refillable e-cigarettes would almost certainly be banned, and only the weakest products will be generally available. As many smokers begin on stronger e-cigs and gradually reduce their dosage, making stronger e-cigs harder to come across will encourage smokers to stay on tobacco.

[kibbster]

Dec 17, 2013 0:47:16 GMT ant said:

But in Chris Davies eyes this is a victory, WTF!

Seeing what he's up against this might seem like a victory to someone dealing with these knuckledraggers all day.

Still a massive clusterfuck though...

[jeffc]

Sorry Peeps this one is correct
ecrgroup.eu/news/eu-set-to-introduce-draconian-overregulation-of-e-cigarettes/
The one from Chris Davies is INCORRECT, please ignore it.

[gibla53]

New news report may mean discussions are still going on .... dunno BUT who knows www.rtl.fr/actualites/info/international/article/un-possible-accord-pour-encadrer-l-e-cigarette-dans-l-ue-renvoye-a-mercredi-7767974538

[kibbster]

Dec 17, 2013 3:43:15 GMT gibla53 said:

New news report may mean discussions are still going on .... dunno BUT who knows www.rtl.fr/actualites/info/international/article/un-possible-accord-pour-encadrer-l-e-cigarette-dans-l-ue-renvoye-a-mercredi-7767974538

My head is spinning with all the changes and conflicting news stories.

If they can't get a simple thing right like saying what's actually happened what hope have we got that they know how to run the EU.
No wonder the EU is such a massive money drain!

[markm]

Expect the FDA to announce something very similar, any moment now,
as this will have come from them!

[Deleted]

Reading on UKV that announcement is postponed till Wednesday. Anyone in the know can clarify this.

[barrynorton]

Yes.

EU-Montenegro Association Conference - press conference
Wednesday, December 18, 2013 at 13.00

video.consilium.europa.eu/

[gibla53]

Just to vent some anger try Tonights twitter bomb 8-9 pm GMT REMEMBER use the new # ........... #EUecigBAN now classed as spam by some

t.co/3AVNs9jfuC explains /shows the event

[jeffc]

Just a bit more info, confirms that EU Parliament has yet to pass these proposals from TPD commission.

velvetgloveironfist.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/refillable-e-cigarettes-under-threat.html

[djs]

Dec 16, 2013 23:24:55 GMT kibbster said:

It is (almost) official, they seem to have voted to ban refillables within two years.
Still more stages to go through, hopefully someone will stop acting like a dribbling zombie and actually oppose this crap before it does get enshrined in law.

Does this mean juice (effectively)?