Bye-bye FastTech hello HealthCabin.

[googled]

Dec 24, 2013 16:56:56 GMT fagin said:

Dec 24, 2013 16:09:43 GMT daveyboy37 said:

as opposed to employing small children fed sawdust and kept in boxes overnight.

A little far fetched

Ya think? When I was a young 'un, we would have given anything for a box and some 

[Perpetua]

Dec 25, 2013 0:20:28 GMT daveyboy37 said:

Dec 24, 2013 23:53:51 GMT newdawn said:

There's every chance the supplies we're paying extra for in the UK are the same ones Asian suppliers offer for less.

Absolutely they are... The vast majority of our vaping gear is Chinese made. The original point I was making was simply that some UK companies such as Myepack are extremely cheap and yet make a profit and so they should.
My issue is with UK vendors who multiply that profit margin by 10 fold, 20 fold and some even more.
Myepack, VapeEscape and one or two others will always get my custom.
The ones who choose to massively overprice their stuff...well I honestly don't care about them. I certainly won't pay those prices just because they're vendors on this forum.

You might be interested to know daveyboy37, that we do actually reject Vendor applications from some of the worst overcharging merchants as we don't want our Members who may not know better to be ripped off. That said, it's also worth remembering that some of the smaller Vendors simply don't have the buying power to purchase in sufficient volume to get the best price on equipment.

But I take your point and Fagin's completely, there's never going to be an easy answer and ultimately it's down to the individual to make their decision on where they choose to spend their hard earned. 

[Mev]

Dec 24, 2013 16:56:56 GMT fagin said:

Dec 24, 2013 16:09:43 GMT daveyboy37 said:

as opposed to employing small children fed sawdust and kept in boxes overnight.

A little far fetched

Ya think? When I was a young 'un, we would have given anything for a box and some sawdust.

When I were a lad there was 16 of us lived in our cardboard box, wasn't so bad though as we all did rotating shifts darn t'pit.

[Deleted]

A small percentage use china/Hong Kong etc but loads don't know or want to use overseas and as many have said UK vendors don't have the buying power but have availability and if anything is wrong it's rectified quick. I have loads of friends and family Vaping but rely on me to get there stuff so I deal in uk. There's a market for everyone home or abroad.

[robby]

Dec 24, 2013 16:56:56 GMT fagin said:

Dec 24, 2013 16:09:43 GMT daveyboy37 said:

as opposed to employing small children fed sawdust and kept in boxes overnight.

A little far fetched

Ya think? When I was a young 'un, we would have given anything for a box and some sawdust.

My box had no top or bottom, as for sawdust!!!!.......spoilt brats

[robby]

Dec 25, 2013 13:59:43 GMT Mev said:

Dec 24, 2013 16:56:56 GMT fagin said:

Ya think? When I was a young 'un, we would have given anything for a box and some sawdust.

When I were a lad there was 16 of us lived in our cardboard box, wasn't so bad though as we all did rotating shifts darn t'pit.

You were lucky, we didnt have a pit to go down !!!!

[robby]

Dec 25, 2013 22:32:01 GMT @tazmania441 said:

A small percentage use china/Hong Kong etc but loads don't know or want to use overseas and as many have said UK vendors don't have the buying power but have availability and if anything is wrong it's rectified quick. I have loads of friends and family Vaping but rely on me to get there stuff so I deal in uk. There's a market for everyone home or abroad.

We have to remember, it isn`t just ecigs that are affected this way and not just from China either. No matter what your retail business is, you start off paying more for your stock
Also, buying from China has started off so many new ecig businesses who have been successful, even with their reduced buying power

[daveyboy37]

I'm not even sure how this got round to whether we should buy from the UK or China. ???
It was simply meant to be about HealthCabin having a sale on, thus allowing me to use DHL for shipping and still being cheaper than FastTech.
Normally I use myepack or VapeEscape if its a small order and that will not change.

[Perpetua]

Dec 26, 2013 11:32:57 GMT daveyboy37 said:

I'm not even sure how this got round to whether we should buy from the UK or China. ???

I think you've just inspired an AAE-C digression daveyboy37 . . . it's not unheard of on this forum. At least is was vaguely vaping related, normally they tend to veer to puppies, kittens or chocolate.

[daveyboy37]

Dec 26, 2013 21:30:05 GMT Perpetua said:

Dec 26, 2013 11:32:57 GMT daveyboy37 said:

I'm not even sure how this got round to whether we should buy from the UK or China. ???

I think you've just inspired an AAE-C digression daveyboy37 . . . it's not unheard of on this forum. At least is was vaguely vaping related, normally they tend to veer to puppies, kittens or chocolate.

There's nothing wrong with that. It's what makes this such a great forum.

Anyways one further note on this.. The order was placed at around 3PM on Christmas Eve... at 4AM this morning it was in the East Midlands having cleared customs in the UK, Leipzig , Hong Kong and China.
My guess is I will receive it tomorrow. So if you want it NOW, order from China.



Friday, December 27, 2013 Location Time
19 Departed Facility in EAST MIDLANDS - UK EAST MIDLANDS - UK 05:22

18 Processed at EAST MIDLANDS - UK EAST MIDLANDS - UK 04:44

17 Clearance processing complete at EAST MIDLANDS - UK EAST MIDLANDS - UK 04:10

16 Customs status updated EAST MIDLANDS - UK 02:39

15 Departed Facility in LEIPZIG - GERMANY LEIPZIG - GERMANY 03:20

14 Transferred through LEIPZIG - GERMANY LEIPZIG - GERMANY 03:17

Thursday, December 26, 2013 Location Time
13 Departed Facility in HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 17:43

12 Processed at HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 17:32

11 Clearance processing complete at HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 13:40

10 Arrived at Sort Facility HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 13:34

9 Customs status updated HONG KONG - HONG KONG 11:29

8 Departed Facility in SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 10:49

7 Processed at SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 10:43

6 Clearance processing complete at SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 10:28

5 Clearance event SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 09:09

4 Arrived at Sort Facility SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 09:07

Wednesday, December 25, 2013 Location Time
3 Departed Facility in FUJIAN PROVINCE - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC FUJIAN PROVINCE - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 23:36

2 Processed at FUJIAN PROVINCE - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC FUJIAN PROVINCE - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 22:37

1 Shipment picked up FUJIAN PROVINCE - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 17:23

DHL tracking sure doesn't leave you guessing where your delivery is.

[Perpetua]

Wow that's going some daveyboy37!

When Macca did our wonderful forum Group Buys, DHL was always the carrier . . . really,really impressed with the service we had from them. We were kept in the picture from start to finish, in the minimum of time as to where our goodies were.

Even having to pay duty on our large orders was handled extremely efficiently and the staff processing the payments were very helpful as well.

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I dare say DHL from china is quicker than ebay from somewhere in England

Now when I was a bairn..... LOL

[xs2man]

Yeah, when I ordered from HC in the past, I used DHL and it was super quick. No complaints there.

BUT, they did lose the package once it got to UK. Had to wait something like 11 days before they would officially declare it lost, but in the meantime I had to pay the customs charge to clear it.

THEN, once they declared it lost, HC could resend it. Again, super quick in getting here, this time I actually got it though. No customs charge that time though, and got refunded on the customs charge on the original order. Not so bad.

BUT, I had paid for speedy delivery, and it took longer than FT for it to come through. Had an issue with one of the products I bought, and while they were good and replaced it straight away, they refused to send speedy DHL again, so ANOTHER couple weeks waiting ensued. Overall I was over a month waiting on one of the items to arrive in a working condition despite paying something like $40 for speedy delivery.

I am hesitant to use HC again after this. And, their p+p can be quite high. I just looked up a V3 Fogger from there and was only $27 for the item, but £17.50 was the cheapest postage available to me. That's a bit much for me to be honest.

They are good if you are putting in a larger order, but FT win hands down for the smaller orders. For me at least.

[daveyboy37]

Yay... Seeing as my delivery was in the East Midlands at 5:30AM I expected delivery tomorrow or more like Monday....Wrong again

Friday, December 27, 2013 Location Time
22 Delivered - Signed for by : CHESTER 11:24

21 With delivery courier LIVERPOOL - UK 10:57

20 Arrived at Delivery Facility in LIVERPOOL - UK LIVERPOOL - UK 07:32

19 Departed Facility in EAST MIDLANDS - UK EAST MIDLANDS - UK 05:22

18 Processed at EAST MIDLANDS - UK EAST MIDLANDS - UK 04:44

17 Clearance processing complete at EAST MIDLANDS - UK EAST MIDLANDS - UK 04:10

16 Customs status updated EAST MIDLANDS - UK 02:39

15 Departed Facility in LEIPZIG - GERMANY LEIPZIG - GERMANY 03:20

14 Transferred through LEIPZIG - GERMANY LEIPZIG - GERMANY 03:17

Thursday, December 26, 2013 Location Time
13 Departed Facility in HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 17:43

12 Processed at HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 17:32

11 Clearance processing complete at HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 13:40

10 Arrived at Sort Facility HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 13:34

9 Customs status updated HONG KONG - HONG KONG 11:29

8 Departed Facility in SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 10:49

7 Processed at SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 10:43

6 Clearance processing complete at SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 10:28

5 Clearance event SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 09:09

4 Arrived at Sort Facility SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 09:07

Wednesday, December 25, 2013 Location Time
3 Departed Facility in FUJIAN PROVINCE - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC FUJIAN PROVINCE - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 23:36

2 Processed at FUJIAN PROVINCE - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC FUJIAN PROVINCE - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 22:37

1 Shipment picked up FUJIAN PROVINCE - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 17:23


So just about 67 hours from ordering to delivery.

[chykensa]

daveyboy37 - that's most impressive