best value for money juices - cost and quality

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Dec 31, 2013 11:51:14 GMT lairey said:

The higher strength nic base works out cheaper in the long run as you use less... for example I use 72mg base and I mix at 18mg, so need 25% base. If I used 36mg base I woukd need twice the amount, but it's not half the price, if that makes sense?

I dilute my VG purely to make it easier to use. It's very viscous and gloopy undiluted and it's very hard to suck up in the syringe.

The ejuicemeup calculator works out everything for you. You just need to make sure you enter your nic base details, flavour % and required strength and PG/VG, then hit the calculate button. If you're unsure, post the resulting recipe on the mixology board and one of us will be happy to check your calculations for you

The ejmu calc is a breeze to use I must say. Yes I read similar on another thread>>> "dilute my VG purely to make it easier to use. It's very viscous and gloopy undiluted and it's very hard to suck up in the syringe" and was thinking when I decant the 72/74 into the 'many' amber smaller bottles and freeze will I struggle. Or do peeps only add after when mixing the liquid.

Many= perhaps hundreds

[lairey]

@zero I don't dilute my nic base, just my plain VG. When you decant, you'll probably find it fairly easy with a small funnel, rather than syringing it. Most VG nic bases are pre diluted, or so I believe, mine definitely is

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Thanks. Now I'm wondering whether to order vg base or pg base. The current juices from the place I 'used' to buy is 70/30 pg. What base do most buy in?

[xs2man]

I usually buy PG nic base. I find it easier to find, and prefer a more PG heavy liquid anyway (60/40 or 70/30), so a predominance of PG is fine.

[boyofford]

Think VG nic base is mostly used by people with alergys to PG who are making VG only eliquids (though will have some PG from flavouring)

[lairey]

I buy VG nic base. Because I mix @ 50/50 and 18mg, I premix 100ml 36mg 100% VG, then I only have to add PG and flavourings... makes it much easier for me, but it really depends on what you want your resulting mix to be. Also, with the stronger base it's not as important unless you want a particulary PG or VG mix, but with the lower strength base, it is more important to get the right base for your mix... does that make any sense? I seem to be rambling

[clivealive1]

ok question on mix calculator
on orange section nicotine base if i use
Diamond Crystal 36mg.
The finest UK made PG nicotine base.
For making Vaping liquid.
Contains:
96.4% PG
3.6% Nicotine
100ml Bottle.

do i add 96,4 % pg in the pg box ????? and if so this auto adds vg at remaining %
or do i just put 36mg in the right hand box.

also what does the 10c default setting mean ?

[xs2man]

Nah, just put 100% PG for the nic base, it'll be fine.

[boyofford]

just put pg at 100% clivealive1

[clivealive1]

thanks
so is this right for 70/30 mix 10ml total with 12g nicotine at 25% concentrate as i like strong.
Nicotine Base Liquid 36mg
(100/0 PG/VG) ml/drops                   3.33   100   33.33
PG (Propylene Glycol) /ml/drops        1.17   35     11.67
VG (Vegetable Glycerine) ml/drops      3      90      30
Red Astaire (100/0 PG/VG) ml/drops   2.5   75       25
and would it need steeping ?

oh is there an order to this or do u just bung it in , lol

how do concerntrates come up strength wise would 20% make it the same as what u buy or not ?

[newdawn]

That's exactly it if you want your flavour at 25% and yeppers....just bung the lot in, put the lid on, give it a shake and put it away for a day or weeks, depending on what you're making. Really is super easy once you play with the calc a couple of times to get your head around it, which it looks like you have, so well done!

I think I read RA is good to go after 24 hours, but someone else can confirm.

[boyofford]

Dec 31, 2013 16:17:15 GMT clivealive1 said:

thanks
so is this right for 70/30 mix 10ml total with 12g nicotine at 25% concentrate as i like strong.
Nicotine Base Liquid 36mg
(100/0 PG/VG) ml/drops                   3.33   100   33.33
PG (Propylene Glycol) /ml/drops        1.17   35     11.67
VG (Vegetable Glycerine) ml/drops      3      90      30
Red Astaire (100/0 PG/VG) ml/drops   2.5   75       25
and would it need steeping ?

oh is there an order to this or do u just bung it in , lol

how do concerntrates come up strength wise would 20% make it the same as what u buy or not ?

Just double checked and looks right to me.
25% might be bit strong though, but you know your tastebuds.
impression I get from reading here is premix is probably closer to 15% mark.

I'd start at 20% if I were you, easier to add bit more conc if not strong enough but harder to dilute out flavour.

I've been putting in nic last as most risky bit.

[boyofford]

I 'steeped' first red astaire mix for 7hrs lol! it is pretty much good to go.

[newdawn]

A wee PS though...you'll get A LOT more mixes out of a bottle of 72mg nic. I know it's more expensive initially, but well worth it overall and definitely something to consider once you're feeling more comfortable about all this mixing malarkey.

[clivealive1]

thanks will consider 72mg if i can afford at time.
also good point easier to add so will start at 20%
adding nicotine risky ?
dont do 72mg on LTcig
£9.48 Diamond Crystal 36mg
£13.56 Diamond Crystal 54mg
Propylene Glycol £2.40 100ml
are these ok prices and what are best sites for all 3 items i need (Propylene Glycol,nicotine base and Vegetable Glycerine)