SAVE OUR NHS - petition to House of Lords

[Scylla]

Sorry folks, I hope these petitions don't come in threes like buses

Here's one that's to be presented to the House of Lords tomorrow, I think ???

I don't fully understand all that the Tories propose, but the fragmentation of services and the idea of competition both terrify me.

www.38degrees.org.uk/page/s/nhs-message-to-the-lords#petition


scylla

[HeadHunter]

I agree, I signed the petition Scylla, thanks for the 'heads up' about this, I honestly had no idea that this was being pushed through.
:-[

[Scylla]

David Owen has a "counter-proposal" (my term, not necessarily appropriate!) apparently.

Look what happened to hospital cleaning

scylla

[monster74]

My partner uses the NHS lots because he's disabled. I know lots of people complain about it but I don't think they realise how lucky we are!!!

Nats X

[Anne (fuzzy)]

They're morons for even considering this absolute disgrace. >

Signed.

[jerryrm]

By all means, keep your NHS. The cost of medical care in the U.S. is astronomical and corruption is rampant. My Dad had a heart bypass operation about 15 years ago and the cost was in the tens of thousands of dollars. He was even charged for oxygen on the day that he was released. Health insurance helps, but the cost of insurance takes a big bite out of people's paychecks.

[bel]

I am forever grateful for the NHS they saved my son and continue to do so.

Signed

[Anne (fuzzy)]

Jerry, our NHS costs us thousands too. We all pay National Insurance which is deducted from our wages regardless if we use the service or not.
How can they take something away from us that we pay for?

[jerryrm]

Anne, that's like what's going on with our Social Security retirement/disability program. All the workers pay into it and have been since the 1930s. When it was set up, the funds were to be separate from the federal budget and only used for Social Security purposes.

In the 1960s, the federal government began digging into the fund, to hide the cost of the Vietnam War. They have been taking from the fund, ever since. Now they are saying that the fund will be insolvent soon. The young people today, are paying into it, knowing that they will never collect a penny from it, but it's mandatory, they have no choice.

[rog]

Signed, thanks for the heads up on that

[Sue (AKA ) milosmum]

Jerry, i agree my daughter lives in the U.S & had to have emergency surgery to remove an ovarian tumour it cost $15,000! makes you feel rather humbled to have the good old NHS. I have had so many hospital appts lately including surgery & you never stop & think about the costs involved..............petition signed

[tizerbelle]

Signed.

[Anne (fuzzy)]

Oct 11, 2011 19:05:12 GMT @jerryrm said:

In the 1960s, the federal government began digging into the fund, to hide the cost of the Vietnam War. They have been taking from the fund, ever since. Now they are saying that the fund will be insolvent soon. The young people today, are paying into it, knowing that they will never collect a penny from it, but it's mandatory, they have no choice.

That's disgraceful too. >
It's doubtful that anyone who's a good few years off retirement age, like me, will get a state pension as they'll be no money left. Everyone's being told they should set up a private pension, otherwise they'll get nothing.
'They' say no one ever died of hard work. Maybe this generation will prove 'them' wrong. We'll work until we literally drop down dead if the government get their way. Makes my blood boil.

[Lilac]

As someone who works in the NHS, i can see the rot has started.....staffing is being cut to unsafe levels, basic supplies like incontinence pads, wipes, etc are being downgraded to the type which we stopped using years ago, due to being 'over budget'...

I has always been the intention of the Tory's to privatise the health service, and i really dread to think what's gonna happen.....won't affect any of them or their families of course, they'll be treated in the private sector and will never have to see their mothers or fathers lying in urine soaked beds cos the net pants and flimsy pads can't cope, not to mention the fact that there are no sheets left to change their beds, since we only get a certain number each day, then no more......

People don't count anymore, it's too expensive apparently.

[Clutter]

I despair, really, I do.

State pensions have always been funded by the current work force and it became obvious that SP would provide subsistance living at best if people didn't also make provision for private pensions.

Then that git Gordon Brown raided the private pensions funds depleting the final sum that our annuities will be based on. Next, charge teenagers an arm and a leg for university education that may, or may not, help them to get a job IF they get a decent degree.

Assuming today's teenagers find work, by the time they pay back their tuition fees and loans, mortgage themselves to the hilt to buy a bog standard house, save towards their own retirement/old age, I wonder if there'll be enough left over for them to eat ???

I signed too, thanks for flagging it up Scylla.