Mute flavours

[Greg]

May 4, 2014 12:12:26 GMT Clivia said:

May 4, 2014 12:10:05 GMT Greg said:

Clivia have you tracked down a 26mm atty for that new mod you've ordered 

 it goes fine with the protank 2 

( what would a 26mm atty be )

I don't think there is a 26mm atty, those mods look exquisite but I was perplexed why he made them 26mm. I guess there an obvious engineering answer given a metal tube has to incorporated.

but that change in diametre would do my head in 

[sirvapalot]

Thanks to the hero that is babs I'm getting some pre-made coils sent over to try out wicking with cotton wool. I'll see how that goes and hopefully will get a much improved flavour! Thanks for all the help guys!

One last thing. With the resistance of coils, am I right in saying lower resistance makes for a harsher, full on vape where as higher is for a smoother, subtle vape?

[Perpetua]

May 5, 2014 1:21:18 GMT sirvapalot said:

One last thing. With the resistance of coils, am I right in saying lower resistance makes for a harsher, full on vape where as higher is for a smoother, subtle vape?

Essentially yes, but if you're using a Variable Voltage/Wattage device then you'll only be able to push so much power through the coil before it either pops, or your eliquid tastes burnt.

Start low and work up is the best bet, low resistance coils came into being before we had the luxury of the devices we now have. A slighter higher ohm, can be more versatile with them.

[sonicflowjoe]

May 4, 2014 12:02:04 GMT Perpetua said:

Personally I'd buy these and shove some cottonwool through:

www.fasttech.com/p/1611705

I bought some similar to these except they were the loosely coiled version. Currently on the way from china...

www.fasttech.com/products/1591801

What difference does it make using the tightly coiled version? Are these more akin to a microcoil? I'm still pretty new to this rebuilding lark and not really sure yet what constitutes a microcoil as apposed to a normal one....

[masteedman]

Best one I think is the nautilus for replacement coil tank then a kayfun clone for a rba,I find protanks mute flavour (just my opinion) ;-)

[Perpetua]

May 5, 2014 18:37:51 GMT sonicflowjoe said:

May 4, 2014 12:02:04 GMT Perpetua said:

Personally I'd buy these and shove some cottonwool through:

www.fasttech.com/p/1611705

I bought some similar to these except they were the loosely coiled version. Currently on the way from china...

www.fasttech.com/products/1591801

What difference does it make using the tightly coiled version? Are these more akin to a microcoil? I'm still pretty new to this rebuilding lark and not really sure yet what constitutes a microcoil as apposed to a normal one....

Exactly that sonicflowjoe.

On FT's descriptions they tell you if the pre-coiled wires are tightly or loosely wound, so that makes it a bit easier to make a selection.

Though they're so reasonable an assortment of the different permutations could be handy to try out.

[sonicflowjoe]

May 5, 2014 19:52:16 GMT Perpetua said:

May 5, 2014 18:37:51 GMT sonicflowjoe said:

I bought some similar to these except they were the loosely coiled version. Currently on the way from china...

www.fasttech.com/products/1591801

What difference does it make using the tightly coiled version? Are these more akin to a microcoil? I'm still pretty new to this rebuilding lark and not really sure yet what constitutes a microcoil as apposed to a normal one....

Exactly that sonicflowjoe.

On FT's descriptions they tell you if the pre-coiled wires are tightly or loosely wound, so that makes it a bit easier to make a selection.

Though they're so reasonable an assortment of the different permutations could be handy to try out.

Ta Perpetua. Are they microcoils though? I was starting to think a coil becomes a microcoil by using thinner gauge wire and more turns but these FT tightly coiled ones seem to be the same as the loosely coiled ones apart from the fact the turns are closer together. Not really sure what difference it would make to the vape. 

[Perpetua]

May 5, 2014 20:30:55 GMT sonicflowjoe said:

May 5, 2014 19:52:16 GMT Perpetua said:

Exactly that sonicflowjoe.

On FT's descriptions they tell you if the pre-coiled wires are tightly or loosely wound, so that makes it a bit easier to make a selection.

Though they're so reasonable an assortment of the different permutations could be handy to try out.

Ta Perpetua. Are they microcoils though? I was starting to think a coil becomes a microcoil by using thinner gauge wire and more turns but these FT tightly coiled ones seem to be the same as the loosely coiled ones apart from the fact the turns are closer together. Not really sure what difference it would make to the vape. 

I'll have to pass on that level of technicality sonicflowjoe . . . they're micro coils(ish) in my noodle.

[babs]

I used the fasttech tightly coiled and have just started to micro coil my own they seem very alike I wick them with cottonwool and having some of each in protank mini's I can't tell the difference when vaping. Hope this helps. The fasttech ones I got were these www.fasttech.com/products/1611705 and they came out spot on 2.0ohm.

[sonicflowjoe]

I'm wishing I included some of the tightly coiled ones in my last order now... Not sure why I didn't as it's not like they cost much and I did look at them. Think I may have seem someone on the reviews aying these are NOT microcoils. I'm guessing I could achieve a similar affect by squashing the loosely coiled ones together with a pair of pliers or something. The specs seem to be pretty much identical apart form how tight or loose the coils are wound.

Sorry to the OP to hijack the thread... Lol. Guess it's all related info though.

I too have had a few problems with flavours being a bit muted at times. Not really sure what to put it down to though as it seems a number of factors could be at play. The first vape of the morning always tastes the best though

I have a dripper on order. Keen to see how juice will taste through it.

[sirvapalot]

So I tried my first micro-coil and cotton today with the pre-made coils that babs so kindly sent me. Got it all done, tested and came out at 2 ohms on the nose. Had a couple of drags which had a lot better flavour and hit. I then left it on the side for 15-20 mins. When I when back to it and tried it again, it had completely flooded and was gargling. I have had this issue before with this tank but no where near as bad as this. Any ideas what I could have done wrong?

[Pepperty]

think its to do with amount of wick? I also find that I get flooding if I suck too hard - so to speak if I pop a cotton bud down channel and turn tank upside down to get excess juice off, and then gently toke on it sorts that gurgling issue

[Greg]

May 8, 2014 16:02:46 GMT sirvapalot said:

So I tried my first micro-coil and cotton today with the pre-made coils that babs so kindly sent me. Got it all done, tested and came out at 2 ohms on the nose. Had a couple of drags which had a lot better flavour and hit. I then left it on the side for 15-20 mins. When I when back to it and tried it again, it had completely flooded and was gargling. I have had this issue before with this tank but no where near as bad as this. Any ideas what I could have done wrong?

Assuming your using an Evod or protank I say maybe you don't have enough wicking material, there needs to be no gap where your wick pokes out on either side or the juice just bypasses the wick and floods/ leaks.

afterthought :- Did you remember to replace the rubber grommet on top of the coil head after fitting the coil ?

[sirvapalot]

I think it was because I wasn't using enough cotton wool. I was reading the forums about it and someone said that you should use half the amount that you think it should be and I think that stuck with me. Tried it again now with more and it works perfectly, thanks guys! It only works on my mini protank adaptor and not my evod one though. Whereas they did the first time I tried them?

[babs]

I usually use enough cottonwool till there is slight very slight resistance then fluff the ends to fill the channels at the side. If they work in your protank mini's they should work in your evod clearo's as well. It takes a little bit of trial and error but worth it in the end. My 1st couple were total failures lol. Glad you are happy with them it's a great feeling being able to change whenever you want. Btw you can just change the cottonwool when you change flavours take old cotton out dryburn then replace cotton no need for new coil every time.