Organic E-liquid Vendor Selling Virgin Vapor and Dripeez

[vapegreen]

Hi would just like to Introduce our website Http://vapegreen.co.uk we specialise in Organic E-liquids and Sell Brands like Virgin Vapor and Dripeez.

We stock a lot of different flavours and nic strengths. We are also an official authorised innokin dealer. 

[richo71]

Good luck with your venture, but £9.99 + £2.75 second class for 15ml thats 2-3 quid more than bespoke established liquids, you have obviously done your market research  but your aiming at a very niche market with those prices, organic or not, you may need to state in bold type that they are 100%vg too. 

[vapegreen]

We offer Free UK delivery on all orders over £20.00 so the £2.75 can be avoided + you have an option to buy the most popular flavours at 30ml for £16.99 (more savings) 

we only sell 100% VG e-liquids as we only do Organic. Regarding Price in general, with shipping from US of A (glass bottles) (chip compliant extras) import tax and duty the price is very fair we are not marking these up by enormous amounts.

Virgin Vapor is a TOP Quality brand and the flavours are Amazing (google reviews) and they have won Several SpinFuel Choice Awards. They are even better if you are PG intolerant (like myself) and want a top quality Vape.

[Ripshod]

A big concern around here are terpenes. I assume being organic a lot your flavours are natural extracts, which contain these terpenes. I don't mind a little limonene in my citrus vapes, that's my choice.

[rednutt]

Oh I use virgin vapor and order it from USA myself. What's terpenes? I've never heard of it

[Ripshod]

To cut a long story short, I posted a recipe containing natural lemon essence. Perpetua alerted me to the fact that it contained lemon oil so I withdrew it. Then I did some research and posted somewhere in here (God knows I can't find it) a list of extracts that contained oils. These oils are safe injested, but you don't really want them in your lungs.

The harmful part of these oils is called 'Terpenes'. There's too many to list but as an example natural extracts from citrus fruits contain a terpene called limonene.

Turpentine is a terpene, and believe it or not so is Vitamin D. Vitamin D overdose is nasty, as is inhaling turpentine vapour, you might know this already from decorating.

Don't mean to scare anyone, just we have a right to know what we're inhaling. I personally don't mind the limonine, until such time as I find an alternative for lemon.

Someone else posted on here, one of our senior members, about oils and how to test for them.

*edit*

Got to add citrus oil is one of the worst at >50% limonene. Most others are a lot lower, but still there.

[vapegreen]

Virgin Vapors breakdown of their E-liquids.


As users of our own products, we are very particular about what goes into our e-liquid. Many e-liquids available today contain artificial flavors, artificial colors, artificial sweeteners and other nasty chemicals. We believe artificial flavors, colors, and sweeteners don't belong in our food, and certainly don't belong in our e-liquid!

Our ingredients are simple: nicotine, organic vegetable glycerin, distilled water and certified organic flavors. Some of our organic flavors come in an organic ethyl alcohol base. If you would prefer an alcohol-free e-liquid, please order from our Absolute line. On request, your e-liquid will also contain propylene glycol. Our e-liquids NEVER contain artificial colors, artificial flavors, artificial sweeteners or any other additives.

Our e-liquids tested completely free of diethylene glycol which was not detected in any concentration in an independent laboratory test. We also tested for heavy metals with spectacular results. Mercury was not detected in any concentration despite a sensitive detection limit of 0.006 parts per million. Similarly, lead, chromium and cadmium were not detected in any concentration. Arsenic was just barely detectible at 0.035 parts per million, an extremely minute concentration.

All of our ingredients are made in the U.S.A. No part of our e-liquid is manufactured in China because, while China produces many wonderful products, we do not feel the quality control is reliable enough for inclusion in a Virgin Vapor e-liquid. Our nicotine is 100% U.S.A made from hand picked tobacco leaves grown in North Carolina. We never use nor have in our e-liquid kitchen any nicotine over 48 mg for the safety of both our customers and ourselves. All of our flavorings are third party certified organic. They do not contain nuts, gluten or sugar and are both vegan and Kosher. We also package in glass, not plastic, to prevent chemicals such as BPA leaching into your e-liquid. While all of these things cost us a bit extra, we simply do not skimp when it comes to quality. We promise, you will taste the difference!

[Greg]

Jun 3, 2014 18:53:39 GMT vapegreen said:

Virgin Vapors breakdown of their E-liquids.


As users of our own products, we are very particular about what goes into our e-liquid. Many e-liquids available today contain artificial flavors, artificial colors, artificial sweeteners and other nasty chemicals. We believe artificial flavors, colors, and sweeteners don't belong in our food, and certainly don't belong in our e-liquid!

Our ingredients are simple: nicotine, organic vegetable glycerin, distilled water and certified organic flavors. Some of our organic flavors come in an organic ethyl alcohol base. If you would prefer an alcohol-free e-liquid, please order from our Absolute line. On request, your e-liquid will also contain propylene glycol. Our e-liquids NEVER contain artificial colors, artificial flavors, artificial sweeteners or any other additives.

Our e-liquids tested completely free of diethylene glycol which was not detected in any concentration in an independent laboratory test. We also tested for heavy metals with spectacular results. Mercury was not detected in any concentration despite a sensitive detection limit of 0.006 parts per million. Similarly, lead, chromium and cadmium were not detected in any concentration. Arsenic was just barely detectible at 0.035 parts per million, an extremely minute concentration.

All of our ingredients are made in the U.S.A. No part of our e-liquid is manufactured in China because, while China produces many wonderful products, we do not feel the quality control is reliable enough for inclusion in a Virgin Vapor e-liquid. Our nicotine is 100% U.S.A made from hand picked tobacco leaves grown in North Carolina. We never use nor have in our e-liquid kitchen any nicotine over 48 mg for the safety of both our customers and ourselves. All of our flavorings are third party certified organic. They do not contain nuts, gluten or sugar and are both vegan and Kosher. We also package in glass, not plastic, to prevent chemicals such as BPA leaching into your e-liquid. While all of these things cost us a bit extra, we simply do not skimp when it comes to quality. We promise, you will taste the difference!

All very good but you haven't answered the terpene question.

and wowser that's some pricing, I'm out.

[vapegreen]

Could you please provide the source regarding Organic E-Juice and terpene being dangerous that way i can forward that to our suppliers and get some answers for you.

As to price, We can all buy artificial flavours, nicotine and some PG and/or VG mix it up make a cheap e-liquid and save money, or buy already made ones that are made in the same way. However if you want natural flavors that taste amazing then the price is going to be a bit higher. 15ml last me around 1 week and beats the £7-8 a day i use to pay back in the days for cigarettes.

Also some people like my self are extremely sensitive to PG and artificial flavours when Vaping, I use to get upset stomach, head aches, sinus issues, acid reflux etc to a point where i went back to cigarettes. After reading up on PG effect for people allergic i tried cutting down on PG in my mixes got better but still had problems specially with my stomach. Even tried 100% VG mixes with PG flavours still had problems. It wasn't until i found organic naturally flavoured E-liquids that i could Vape like a champ without any problems and the taste was so good that i was instantly hooked.

Any way this was suppose to be an introduction to our website. Please provide information regarding terpene and vaping and i will chase it up with all our suppliers and get back to you.

[Deleted]

I think the pricing is pretty good considering these guys know and are willing to tell us exactly what is in their liquids. How many of know exactly what the stuff we vape contains? The Chinese don't care if they pollute their own rivers and people, do you think they are that worried about quality control? I get quite ill on certain liquids, I have no idea what is causing this but if paying about 30% more stops this I will be one happy bunny. Not saying it will but I'm more than willing to try.

[Deleted]

Interesting you mentioning acid reflux, that's exactly the problem I have.

[Deleted]

Order sent.

[Greg]

Jun 3, 2014 19:31:38 GMT vapegreen said:

Could you please provide the source regarding Organic E-Juice and terpene being dangerous that way i can forward that to our suppliers and get some answers for you.

As to price, We can all buy artificial flavours, nicotine and some PG and/or VG mix it up make a cheap e-liquid and save money, or buy already made ones that are made in the same way. However if you want natural flavors that taste amazing then the price is going to be a bit higher. 15ml last me around 1 week and beats the £7-8 a day i use to pay back in the days for cigarettes.

Also some people like my self are extremely sensitive to PG and artificial flavours when Vaping, I use to get upset stomach, head aches, sinus issues, acid reflux etc to a point where i went back to cigarettes. After reading up on PG effect for people allergic i tried cutting down on PG in my mixes got better but still had problems specially with my stomach. Even tried 100% VG mixes with PG flavours still had problems. It wasn't until i found organic naturally flavoured E-liquids that i could Vape like a champ without any problems and the taste was so good that i was instantly hooked.

Any way this was suppose to be an introduction to our website. Please provide information regarding terpene and vaping and i will chase it up with all our suppliers and get back to you.

I don't have a source. I just noticed a genuine question was asked about terpene and you negated to answer it. I would have thought you or your suppliers would know if it was in any of the juices and if it is then if it is harmful.
15ml would last me 3 days and the comparison to cost of cigarettes is irrelevant, comparing eggs with eggs is more appropriate.
ive tasted so called premium juice before and there no better than my so called cheapo home brews, it's just marketing in my view.
i can see the argument if your PG sensitive but then do vg flavourings cost so much more than pg or is a case of taking advantage of this niche market. 

[Ripshod]

I would have thought the first port of call would be obvious, it starts with wiki and ends with pedia. Also, if you search back to (I think) June last year, the BMA published their own findings on limonene.

Give me a few mins, gonna trawl back for the list.

BTW, this is not an attack directed at you. But as a vendor surely your customer's interests and your own reputation should come first and second.

[Ripshod]

Here you go:

Allspice Extract, Oleoresin, and Oil
Almond Bitter Oil
Amyris Oil
Angelica Root Extract, Oil and Seed Oil
Anise Star, Extract and Oils
Asafetida Fluid Extract And Oil
Balsam Peru and Oil
Basil Oil
Bay leaf, Oil and Sweet Oil
Bergamot Oil
Buchu Leaf Oil
Butter, Butter Esters, and Butter Oil
Cananga Oil
Caraway Oil
Cardamom Oleoresin, Extract, Seed Oil, and Powder
Carrot Oil
Cascarilla Oil and Bark Extract
Cassia Bark Oil
Cassie Absolute and Oil
Cedar Leaf Oil
Cedarwood Oil Terpenes and Virginiana
Celery Seed Extract, Solid, Oil, And Oleoresin
Chamomile Flower Oil And Extract
Cinnamon Leaf Oil, Bark Oil, and Extract
Citronella Oil
Clary Oil
Coconut Oil
Cognac White and Green Oil
Copaiba Oil
Coriander Extract and Oil
Corn Oil
Costus Root Oil
Cubeb Oil
Davana Oil
Dill Seed Oil and Extract
Fennel Sweet Oil
Galbanum Oil
Geranium Rose Oil
Ginger Oil and Oleoresin
Guaiac Wood Oil
Hops Oil
Hyssop Oil
Jasmine Absolute, Concrete and Oil
Lavandin Oil
Lavender oil
Lemon Oil and Extract
Lemongrass Oil
Lime Oil
Lovage Oil And Extract
Mandarin Oil
Myrrh Oil
Neroli Bigarde Oil
Nutmeg Powder and Oil
Oak chips extract and oil
Olibanum oil
Opoponax oil and gum
Orange oil and extract
Origanum oil
Orris concrete oil and root extract
Palmarosa Oil
Parsley Seed Oil
Patchouli Oil
Pepper Oil, Black And White
Peppermint Oil
Peruvian (Bois De Rose) Oil
Petitgrain Absolute, Mandarin Oil and Terpeneless Oil
Pimenta Leaf Oil
Pine Needle Oil, Pine Oil, Scotch
Rose Absolute and Oil
Rosemary Oil
Sage, Sage oil, and Sage oleoresin
Sandalwood oil, yellow
Snakeroot oil
Spearmint oil
Styrax extract, gum and oil
Tagetes Oil
Thyme Oil, White and Red
Valerian Root Extract, Oil and Powder
Vetiver Oil

All these have already been proved by UK and USA agencies. FDA in the USA isn't it?

As you have already stated the juices are 100% organic the flavours are made with natural extracts, then any on this list are oil based and contain terpenes.