Some help needed for a first time mixer

[sirvapalot]

Hi, I’ve been lurking around these pages for a while and looking to give my first mix a go, mainly because I wanted to try the fabled “Red Astair” but really don’t like the 80/20 mix T-juice use. I’m going to start off simple, just using 1 flavour and then experiment with it to find out what kind of PG/VG ratios, nic strength and flavour % suits me.

A couple of questions I have first.
    1) What size batches are best to make when first starting out?
    2) I see a lot of people measuring things in drops. Is there a good reason to use drops over a 1ml syringe? From a first timers perspective it seems a lot less precise.
    3) Why do people use AVG or put vodka into VG? Is this something that should be used in all mixes or just high VG one? (I’m probably going to be mixing around 50/50     or 60/40 I think)
    4) All the posts I’ve read people either use 100% PG or VG nic base. When I was looking for supplies I saw they did a 50/50 base. Has anyone used this before or is     there a good reason not to use it? After putting a few numbers through the mix calc it seems to offer a hell of a lot more flexibility than a 100% base.
    5) Are there any concentrates that are a “must have”? So far the flavours I have enjoyed are more fruity and dessert type juices.
    6) Are things like MTS and Magic Mask worth getting when you first start out or is it something that’s better used when you start making more complex flavours?
    7) Menthol flavourings. What’s the best/easiest way of giving your mixes that fresh feeling?

Any help or advice from you guys would be highly appreciated.

[Deleted]

1: 5ml or 10ml max ... if it turns out crap you won't lose too much by dumping it.
2: I always use a 1 ml syringe for flavours ... much more precise as droppers can vary widely.
3: I dilute my VG with 10% cheap vodka .. it makes it easier to syringe (less gloopy).
4: I use 100% PG base and then add VG and PG as required to get my PG/VG ratio ... 100% PG base is usually cheaper to buy.
5:That is always a case of personal taste ... I only mix Golden Rollie tobacco nowadays as it is my all day vape.
6: I always add 2% Vape Wizard to all my mixes as it rounds out any harshness and brings out the flavour IMHO.
7: can't help you with this one as I don't mix it.

I hope this goes some way to answering your queries.

[rednutt]

Jun 3, 2014 15:25:37 GMT sirvapalot said:

Hi, I’ve been lurking around these pages for a while and looking to give my first mix a go, mainly because I wanted to try the fabled “Red Astair” but really don’t like the 80/20 mix T-juice use. I’m going to start off simple, just using 1 flavour and then experiment with it to find out what kind of PG/VG ratios, nic strength and flavour % suits me.

A couple of questions I have first.
    1) What size batches are best to make when first starting out? Again 5 a 10 ml
    2) I see a lot of people measuring things in drops. Is there a good reason to use drops over a 1ml syringe? From a first timers perspective it seems a lot less precise. I use syringes for everything .
    3) Why do people use AVG or put vodka into VG? Is this something that should be used in all mixes or just high VG one? (I’m probably going to be mixing around 50/50     or 60/40 I think) Vg is quite thick and vodka is used to give more throat hit and to thin it out.
    4) All the posts I’ve read people either use 100% PG or VG nic base. When I was looking for supplies I saw they did a 50/50 base. Has anyone used this before or is     there a good reason not to use it? After putting a few numbers through the mix calc it seems to offer a hell of a lot more flexibility than a 100% base. I use 100pg nic base then add vg and flavours
    5) Are there any concentrates that are a “must have”? So far the flavours I have enjoyed are more fruity and dessert type juices. Capella vanilla custard, French vanilla deluxe, red Astaire are favourites on here I've discovered. Just received my first RA and going to mix it tonight & just made a vanilla custard recipe too all found on the recipe list on aaec
    6) Are things like MTS and Magic Mask worth getting when you first start out or is it something that’s better used when you start making more complex flavours? Sorry never tried them
    7) Menthol flavourings. What’s the best/easiest way of giving your mixes that fresh feeling? Koolada gives mixes a cold feel but not minty menthol. so strawberry with koolada would be like strawberry ice cream. I'm not a big fan of menthol but do like mints. I'm still on the hunt for a perfect one. Kandi hed mixed mint is nice and I've just mixed TPA mint candy which is nice too. I've read a lot of people buy menthol crystals and mix their own menthol  concentrate 

Any help or advice from you guys would be highly appreciated.

[jcol]

A good site that sells many different makes of flavourings is Chefs Vapour.
It saves on postage to get them all off one site.
Use code AAEC for 20% off.

T-juice make ready made flavouring blended already, so all you have to do is add PG, VG and nic base.
Red Astaire is like cherry soothers (the sore throat sweets)
Affro Dizziak is like the old fashioned cough sweets.
Minty the toff is minty toffo's
Jack the ripple is like raspberry ripple ice cream

link

Also most of use use a mixing calculator called ejuicemeup link
just look at the guides, or post any questions in here

Good luck, its really easy once you get used to it

[sammy13]

That just about covers it all, guys

[Perpetua]

Jun 3, 2014 15:25:37 GMT sirvapalot said:

Hi, I’ve been lurking around these pages for a while and looking to give my first mix a go, mainly because I wanted to try the fabled “Red Astair” but really don’t like the 80/20 mix T-juice use. I’m going to start off simple, just using 1 flavour and then experiment with it to find out what kind of PG/VG ratios, nic strength and flavour % suits me.

A couple of questions I have first.
   
    2) I see a lot of people measuring things in drops. Is there a good reason to use drops over a 1ml syringe? From a first timers perspective it seems a lot less precise. I use drops for flavouring if it's under 1ml and work on 30 drops to a ml, I'm more of a near enough is good enough sort of mixer.

    3) Why do people use AVG or put vodka into VG? Is this something that should be used in all mixes or just high VG one? (I’m probably going to be mixing around 50/50     or 60/40 I think) If you're using an all PG base, then you won't need to dilute your VG.

    4) All the posts I’ve read people either use 100% PG or VG nic base. I'm PG sensitive, as as high a VG ratio I can get the better.

    5) Are there any concentrates that are a “must have”? So far the flavours I have enjoyed are more fruity and dessert type juices.  Bavarian Cream, Dulce de Leche, Cake Batter and a good Caramel are worth looking at if you prefer those type of flavours

    6) Are things like MTS and Magic Mask worth getting when you first start out or is it something that’s better used when you start making more complex flavours? Vape Wizard could be useful, it's a flavour ' rounder ' but I don't use it much as the majority of my mixes are of the Dessert/Fruit type. A sweetener is a must have additive I think.
  

Just my personal mixing preferences.

[sirvapalot]

Thanks for all the help guys. I've ordered all my gear now and really looking forward to trying it out.