Charging spinners

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I have two spare back up spinners 1300 plugged into wall socket and "set" to 4.1 whilst charging take around 2hrs. 650 ego takes around 30 mins.MVP takes around 2hrs :/

[sammy13]

snow,
I have this morning charged 2 x 1100 genuine joyetech spinners from totally flat.
I set them at 4.2 ish, and plugged them into a wall socket ( genuine joyetech wall plug adapter etc ).
I turned them on at 8.30am, at 11.20am they were still charging , at 11.35am they were done .
So 3 hours.

I know my 1300 spinner takes longer I believe 4 hours but I will check that also.

[snow]

Thats great sammy13 thats pretty much decided it for me now - off to do some battery shopping, and maybe a dripping atty as well. Must. Stop. Buying. STUFF!

[chykensa]

I charged up my Spinner on a genuine Kanger charger in a wall USB plug, set at 4.8v, this morning. It did charge in just over an hour, but I have no idea how much charge there was left in it, so as an empirical study this is a complete waste of words and time

[jonoclouds]

My 1300mAh Spinner takes several hours to charge from flat using a 500mA wall charger. This seems about right, too - theoretically it should be just under 3 hours but of course batteries are never as perfect as theory, there are losses and ageing to account for. Also, a good charge-control circuit (like that inside the Spinner) charges on constant-current to start with, then constant-voltage towards the end. The result is extended charging time but much improved battery life in terms of number of charge cycles.

Very long charge times (like the 7 hours that the OP mentioned) could simply be due to poor chargers - some of those imported from China are embarrassingly simple inside and are not capable of charging at the rate that they claim on their label.

DiscoDes posted earlier with doubts about the hypothesis that setting the dial to 4.2V speeds up charging. His doubts are well-founded, as the setting only affects the discharge rate, not the charge rate. The dial tells the buck/boost circuit what output voltage to maintain, that's all.

In my experience, Spinners are excellent devices and I would definitely recommend them.

Cheers - JonoClouds

[chykensa]

jonoclouds - so I presume I'm right in assuming from the OP's remarks and yours that a new charger might be the solution, rather than a new battery - sounds good to me

[jonoclouds]

Jun 14, 2014 12:12:06 GMT chykensa said:

jonoclouds - so I presume I'm right in assuming from the OP's remarks and yours that a new charger might be the solution, rather than a new battery - sounds good to me

Yes, I think so. I'd get a good-quality charger and try it before writing off the Spinner.
It is always worth having a good charger anyway, whatever the outcome is!
Spinners are good batteries, I love mine. The 1300mAh ones last for many happy hours of vaping.

All the best - Jono

[sammy13]

Jun 14, 2014 11:47:16 GMT chykensa said:

I charged up my Spinner on a genuine Kanger charger in a wall USB plug, set at 4.8v, this morning. It did charge in just over an hour, but I have no idea how much charge there was left in it, so as an empirical study this is a complete waste of words and time

 well I can tell you my twists were extinct lol, purposely run them down then got a bit more out of them left them overnight and got a bit more out of them , then nothing nada.

All for experimental purposes of course

I got the dial as close to 4.2 as I could guage, no idea what that does and normally I don't so still no idea.

[sammy13]

Jun 14, 2014 12:08:34 GMT jonoclouds said:

My 1300mAh Spinner takes several hours to charge from flat using a 500mA wall charger. This seems about right, too - theoretically it should be just under 3 hours but of course batteries are never as perfect as theory, there are losses and ageing to account for. Also, a good charge-control circuit (like that inside the Spinner) charges on constant-current to start with, then constant-voltage towards the end. The result is extended charging time but much improved battery life in terms of number of charge cycles.

Very long charge times (like the 7 hours that the OP mentioned) could simply be due to poor chargers - some of those imported from China are embarrassingly simple inside and are not capable of charging at the rate that they claim on their label.

DiscoDes posted earlier with doubts about the hypothesis that setting the dial to 4.2V speeds up charging. His doubts are well-founded, as the setting only affects the discharge rate, not the charge rate. The dial tells the buck/boost circuit what output voltage to maintain, that's all.

In my experience, Spinners are excellent devices and I would definitely recommend them.

Cheers - JonoClouds

Excellent post, thankyou, I now know I don't need to squint at it at daft oclock in the morning to get it set right before charging lol

[sammy13]

Jun 14, 2014 12:12:06 GMT chykensa said:

jonoclouds - so I presume I'm right in assuming from the OP's remarks and yours that a new charger might be the solution, rather than a new battery - sounds good to me

The ops batteries should not be taking so long to charge, but the batteries are still working and chargers are cheaper so I would definitely buy a branded charger and usb lead from joyetech, tw, tecc etc first.

[Ripshod]

Thank you jonoclouds for dispelling this rumour.

When I first heard it I had my doubts, but no way to prove it. Common sense prevails, charging is seperate from the output

[sammy13]

Jun 14, 2014 17:03:24 GMT Ripshod said:

Thank you jonoclouds for dispelling this rumour.

When I first heard it I had my doubts, but no way to prove it. Common sense prevails, charging is seperate from the output

So just to double, treble check, I am ok to stick my vv batteries on charge at whatever they were set at in use?

[wil7985]

Jun 14, 2014 16:43:51 GMT sammy13 said:

Jun 14, 2014 12:12:06 GMT chykensa said:

jonoclouds - so I presume I'm right in assuming from the OP's remarks and yours that a new charger might be the solution, rather than a new battery - sounds good to me

The ops batteries should not be taking so long to charge, but the batteries are still working and chargers are cheaper so I would definitely buy a branded charger and usb lead from joyetech, tw, tecc etc first.

Think this is what i should do, as said the batteries last a good 12/15 hours of heavy vaping , so going to try a decent charger, and see how that goes, thanks everyone for you help.

[sammy13]

wil7985

TW have the yo-yo game on chargers -
www.totallywicked-eliquid.co.uk/products/accessories-and-and-replacements/batteries/chargers-products.html

If you do not know what this is, certain items have a % off.
That % changes and goes up and down.
You watch it and when you are happy with the discount you press buy.
Other than that -
www.joyetech.co.uk/search/joyetech/charger#.U5yDCo1OXmQ

or - www.theelectroniccigarette.co.uk/products/accessories-products.html

I know these are genuine. A lot of stores buy them from China then sell them on.
If you are on facebook or twitter, there may be discounts on there for non discounted products.

[chykensa]

zeldamum sells genuine Kanger chargers, and they seem to be quite quick!! Certainly a good price and a sturdy build quality, ans you would expect from Kanger.