Rave-on for rayon?

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Aug 5, 2014 19:32:57 GMT jeffc said:

Hi Peeps. Have been using the rayon for around 7 days now. Although the flavour and vapour is superb, I now am having side effects: sore throat, tightening around chest area.

So today I re wicked the Kayfuns & other atty`s back onto silica.

Result sore throat almost gone, chest area back to normal.

So regrettably I shall not be using it. Pity was a doddle to set up.

Next Stafford vape meet I shall share with vapers there.

So this old git can only use Silica, but wait I`ve ordered some Japanese cotton from Mrs Lords site.

Will try that. . watch for future post results.

Interesting you've notice a soar throat etc. I too have noticed this since using rayon.
Theres an interesting thread on ukv about people suffering side effects.
Im just getting a bit concerned that this is a man made fibre that uses chemicals we dont know about in its manufacture and as it was never designed to be a heated wick we dont really know what we are breathing in.
Because of this I will be going back to cotton until more research on it has been done.

[anythintreet]

I thought Rayon was supposed to be more heat resistant than cotton?

1st build: Tobh dual coil 32g 0.6ohms on panzer- cough my lungs up and retch over a horrific burned plastic taste

2nd build: Kayfun single coil .4 ribbon 1.5 ohms on SVD- same taste, but an even more awful acrid element in there on anything above 4.5 watts.

in the tobh I used LOADS of rayon under the coils as a cloud but nice and loose in the coil. in the Kayfun it was even more loose and maybe about half as much as it would be with cotton. What's going on!

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Aug 7, 2014 16:03:35 GMT anythintreet said:

I thought Rayon was supposed to be more heat resistant than cotton?

1st build: Tobh dual coil 32g 0.6ohms on panzer- cough my lungs up and retch over a horrific burned plastic taste

2nd build: Kayfun single coil .4 ribbon 1.5 ohms on SVD- same taste, but an even more awful acrid element in there on anything above 4.5 watts.

in the tobh I used LOADS of rayon under the coils as a cloud but nice and loose in the coil. in the Kayfun it was even more loose and maybe about half as much as it would be with cotton. What's going on!

I have been using two foggers set at 0.5ohms and 0.8ohms but the rayon in mine is quite tight. Loads of flavour, vapour and throat hit. I do feel a wee bit chesty with it though.

[VapingBad]

Aug 7, 2014 16:03:35 GMT anythintreet said:

I thought Rayon was supposed to be more heat resistant than cotton?

1st build: Tobh dual coil 32g 0.6ohms on panzer- cough my lungs up and retch over a horrific burned plastic taste

2nd build: Kayfun single coil .4 ribbon 1.5 ohms on SVD- same taste, but an even more awful acrid element in there on anything above 4.5 watts.

in the tobh I used LOADS of rayon under the coils as a cloud but nice and loose in the coil. in the Kayfun it was even more loose and maybe about half as much as it would be with cotton. What's going on!

Sounds like your not using enough in the coil and getting hot kanthal taste, need more than cotton quite tight in the coil so it squeaks when you pull it through, in 0.4 mm kanthal 3 mm coil I have to hold one side of the coil to stop it deforming when I pull rayon through.  It's as much as the absolute max you can squeeze in, but rayon shrinks or collapses when wet so if you don't have enough the kanthal will get too hot.

[Die5el]

i have been using this SANEK 40 ft Cellucotton Beauty Coil BT42251 i bought from amazon for nearly a month now thinking what i thought was rayon not 100% sure but i must say it wicks well and easily threads through my coils that i made, plenty of flavour and plenty of vapour. Completely exceeded my expectations so i`ll stick with this even if it isn`t rayon as i said before the p+p is the killer on this one though£5.00 for the product + £5.46 shipping but it does ship from the usa though

[boyofford]

Had a sore throat this week, Tuesday to Friday morning.
Been using rayon exclusively for few weeks and been great, but read couple of posts here and on ukv and thought I'd swap back to cotton on friday...... sore throat completely gone?!

Will try rayon again next week just to confirm its that and not coincidence but could I have got a intolerance to it??
Dam shame if have because its so easy to work with and was loving it!

[VapingBad]

I think you have the cotton not rayon Die5el, but not surprised that it vapes well.

[Die5el]

VapingBad its the best thing i have used for my wicks also it doesn't burn like cotton i haven't had a dry hits in my drippers cant see me using anything else any time soon i have used silica ,organic cotton,tesco cotton and this beats them hands down its doesn't feel like cotton as you pull it apart it has very straight fibres pm sent to you

[Perpetua]

Stop press!!!!!!!
I've joined the Rayon Ravers today . . . thanks to Virtual Vape's wonderful micro coil widgets.


Popped them into a couple of my FT BCC's, filled up with eliquid, left to soak for a good while . . . haven't put them down since.


Makes my measly coily offerings a bit second rate now.

[chykensa]

UPDATE ON RAYON USAGE:-
I have now recoiled and rewicked a Kayfun and a Russian with rayon, and here are the results from the Cornish jury.
Manipulation of the material is far superior to CW, as it cuts easily and removing fibres is simple.
It is slightly more difficult to form a point to feed through a microcoil as the rayon wants to spring back, but it is doable.
I think I have not used enough in the Russian, as I am getting a fair quantity of dry hits. This Russian has always been a bit problematical however, so I need to struggle through this tank of juice and then give it a good seeing to.
The KF is performing well, with some Minty the Toff on a Caravela in 18650 mode. The flavour is every bit as good as the CW used previously in this attie, and vapour production is excellent, although this is on a brand new coil.

My conclusions? I will stick with the rayon for a couple of weeks to make sure I am using the correct amount before making a final decision, but I am pleasantly surprised with its performance. I haven't noticed a radical difference in flavour, but it's definitely on a par with CW, with the advantage that it's easier to work with, and does give warning of a dry hit, unlike CW which just fills your mouth (and lungs, if you are unfortunate enough!) with acrid taste.

All in all, an interesting experiment, and I will post here again once I feel that I have really given it due justice.

[wooky]

Coiled up a Kayfin fun last night with a 2mm .21 twisted coil which came in at 1.5 ohms, wicked it with about 4mm of Rayon and so far no issues. As chykensa said, Rayon itself was easier to work with than CW and so far I'm having no issues with the flavour or the and vape.

[Super-Shiny]

Update on Rayon:

Works great with atties that have a big area for juice to sit, Rayon after loads of testing does not wick aswell as cotton for the likes of:

Kanger Mows/Evods/Protanks etc due to their little space for juice.

Works great for the Kanger Mega Tank as it as a big juice well.

I could probably get wick working better after loads of adjusting but the little difference between Rayon and Cotton just does not justify the work involved.

Shame really as it gives slightly better TH and lasts longer than cotton plus more notification of a dry hit that can burn your wick, i maybe just use Rayon for the Megatank and cotton for the Mow/Aerotank.

[Super-Shiny]

Just in case you are buying bits from C9V you may want to add this to basket to make P+P worth while: www.cloud9vaping.co.uk/epages/yxve46fvrnud.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/yxve46fvrnud/Products/DIY-CELLU-1

[VapingBad]

Aug 11, 2014 19:44:26 GMT Super-Shiny said:

Just in case you are buying bits from C9V you may want to add this to basket to make P+P worth while: www.cloud9vaping.co.uk/epages/yxve46fvrnud.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/yxve46fvrnud/Products/DIY-CELLU-1

A pound a meter, fine if you want to try it, but loads of profit making there and no larger lengths at sensible prices.

[Super-Shiny]

Aug 11, 2014 19:47:52 GMT VapingBad said:

Aug 11, 2014 19:44:26 GMT Super-Shiny said:

Just in case you are buying bits from C9V you may want to add this to basket to make P+P worth while: www.cloud9vaping.co.uk/epages/yxve46fvrnud.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/yxve46fvrnud/Products/DIY-CELLU-1

A pound a meter, fine if you want to try it, but loads of profit making there and no larger lengths at sensible prices.

That's what i meant, if you are buying bits from C9V and want to see how it is then a £1.00 add to basket won't do much harm.