VAT

[Sandra (aka Chillax)]

Very quickly I think

[Chrissie]

Glad to hear the issue has been resolved, thanks for letting us know Ben

[Gordy]

it kinda got sorted ...i placed an order but the discount disapeared before payment damn it !!!!

[womble]

I'm looking at a 20ml bottle of VR premium blend and it's still £12.99, which I'm sure is the same price I paid last time?

[Ben]

VR has always been £12.99 per 30ml bottle Womble

[womble]

Nov 19, 2011 16:31:27 GMT Ben said:

VR has always been £12.99 per 30ml bottle Womble

Sorry 30ml.

But I thought you said you were putting your prices up? I thought that was what the whole Vat debate was about?

I would like an advance notice if you are putting them up please.

[Perpetua]

I think Ben meant that prices will go up when batch testing on VR juices comes into effect Womble, but only on juice not hardware.

The VAT debate was over a checkout issue, now sorted.

[womble]

Oh OK, I did just skim the thread thanks

Ben, can you tell us how much they are to go up and it may not be the thread, but why? I thought VR were a reputable company that made quality products (and I'm not being sarcastic here), why would you need to batch test them?

[hifistud]

Folks thought that about Box Elder, too... I'd much rather ALL vendors checked every batch of juice coming in... before somebody is killed. And no, I'm not being over dramatic.

[domesticextremist]

Hmm, gc/ms is going to be v. expensive.

I see a market for a rapid (possibly titrimetric) test that
vendors can use to validate the claimed strength on stuff
coming from wholesalers...

[Gordy]

i think i heard on VTTV that a tester was £500 so not a huge price to pay

[womble]

Ben, are the VR juices cut with anything else once you bring them into the UK, ie are they shipped as a base liquid?

Excuse me if I've committed a newbie mistake by asking this question.

[Ben]

VR do test there own Liquid.. However because they are not part of the EU, we are required to do our own testing.

Even if they were part of the EU it does not hurt to do your own tests.




"Hi Ben, No on the Box Elder.

We are our own nicotine supplier and import
directly.

At this point we test each batch of nicotine for purity when we
get it. The next step in our process is all flavors are created at 25mg/ml
and at 0mg/ml in 1 liter batches.

We do mix a 1 liter unflavored test batch
every 6 months to check the accuracy of our equipment, result have always
been +/- 3% (24250mg - 25750mg per liter) or (24.2mg/ml - 26mg/ml).

We have made this our acceptable range and have tested in this range since we began
testing just over a year ago now, 1 initial equipment test and 2 follow up
tests.
We then blend the 25mg and the 0mg by percentage, like the chart I
sent you back when. The end 5 - 20mg level has not been tested but we do
use the same equipment to blend that has been tested. Theoretically there
could be a little more pronounced variations in the lower levels, honestly
we have not checked them. Example: 5mg could be 4mg - 5mg, 10mg could be
9mg - 11mg and so on.
Our 0 nic is randomly GCMS tested for our quality
control and the diacetyl scare factor. It's probably time to start doing
more. Hope this is helpful, Thanks, Dave."

[Ben]

Forgot to mention they are also working on providing easy to understand reports based on there tests.

And yes we will plaster the website with it for your reading pleasure.