really struggling with vapor!

[1vaper123]

Hi. It is a vapor thing. I suppose I just want a setup that will give me great vapor but the setup I have now is giving me hardly any. I'm not expecting masses of vapor but I'm getting hardly any. I buy ready made liquids from my local e cig shop but have tried several brands. Well variable voltage help me achieve what I'm looking for? What's the minimum battery size I should invest in? Are bottom coil clearomisers the best to use? Thsnkyou everybody for all this advice. :-)

[robby]

Get yourself an MVP kit which comes with 2 iclear16 s, many users on this forum, widely available for about £25. Great battery life and great atomizers
and suck long and suck slow

[lairey]

Hi 1vaper123 and

The juice you're using will also have a lot to do with the vapour produced. The dilutents used in juice are PG and VG. Where you see 70/30 or 60/40 etc, this is the ratio of each of these. PG gives more throat hit and slightly more flavour, VG gives more vapour and is slightly sweeter. Try getting some juice with a higher VG ratio and see if that helps To try this inexpensively, have a look at JooseJuice. They allow you to choose your PG/VG ratio and at only £1.49 for a 10ml sample you can't really go wrong. Their juices are fresh to order so they will benefit from steeping and I believe they are closed until Monday.

Also agree with looking at a VV/Vw device so you can increase the power a bit.

[robby]

Just to check if you are doing it right , as the actress said to the bishop
When you draw on an ecig, to get maximum vapour you suck slowly. It should take 3 or 4 seconds to fill your mouth. It is the total opposite of the cigarette smoking method. You probably are, but it wouldn`t be the first time there has been a Eureka moment when this problem has come up before

[csmith10]

Jun 28, 2014 8:41:51 GMT 1vaper123 said:

Hi. It is a vapor thing. I suppose I just want a setup that will give me great vapor but the setup I have now is giving me hardly any. I'm not expecting masses of vapor but I'm getting hardly any. I buy ready made liquids from my local e cig shop but have tried several brands. Well variable voltage help me achieve what I'm looking for? What's the minimum battery size I should invest in? Are bottom coil clearomisers the best to use? Thsnkyou everybody for all this advice. :-)

This is the battery my wife uses myepack.co.uk/batteries/evod-twist-1000-mah-v-v-battery.html
It's not too big and is easy to adjust. In all honesty the aspire coils are pretty rubbish. A simple VV battery and a recoiled kanger protank/aerotank will keep you happy for a while!

[leo]

1vaper123 it sounds like you are experiencing a wicking issue. When you leave your e-cig alone for half an hour or so the wicks soak up juice, when you take a couple of vapes you use up that juice, but the wicks are not soaking up juice fast enough. You can improve wicking by rebuilding your heads with cotton wick.
But soon enough you will want more....
So, my advice is: get yourself a VV/VW mod like a Vamo or a Zmax, and a Kayfun Lite. Once you learn how to coil and wick it, you will be able to chain vape no problems. You will get much better vapour and flavour, as well as more 'satisfaction' from your nic level.
A lot of people up their nic level, but improving your setup can achieve better results without having to up your nic.

If you are on this forum, shinyitis will consume you sooner or later, so you might as well get in there!!!!
Cheers

[gill2009]

 A very BIG welcome to AAEC 1vaper123 

 This is my Innokin vv/vw set up with Protank 2

Easily adjustable to suit taste/vapour...spend the money now, & get a good kit as advised above.

[1vaper123]

Thank you everyone for all your kind advice. Variable voltage looks definitely the way forward. I already have a kanger mini pro tank 3 ( the guy in the e cig shop raved about them) which by all accounts is a decent clearomiser but it's all but useless on the batterys I own (barely used it) Even on my 900mah I get very little vapour again with it. All though I'm hoping if I purchase a VV battery this will give me a satisfactory setup. :-)

[1vaper123]

Hi Robby. I do long slow vapes. 4-6 seconds into the mouth and then enhale into my lungs all though I have noticed I have a habit of sometimes opening my mouth momentarily after a couple of seconds then doing a bout a 4 second vape from there. I find I get more vapor that way but could this contribute to condensation in the clearomiser as I could be blowing vapor back down? . Just a thought

[dinamic22]

Hi 1vaper123 i agree with robby go for an MVP2 they are great & being 2600mah they last approx 3 days between charges

[robby]

Jun 28, 2014 12:02:24 GMT 1vaper123 said:

Hi Robby. I do long slow vapes. 4-6 seconds into the mouth and then enhale into my lungs all though I have noticed I have a habit of sometimes opening my mouth momentarily after a couple of seconds then doing a bout a 4 second vape from there. I find I get more vapor that way but could this contribute to condensation in the clearomiser as I could be blowing vapor back down? . Just a thought

No, condensation is unavoidable it`s not usually much of a factor. You vape much the same way as the rest of us Get some new kit mate, that`s what you need, more power

[Perpetua]

Jun 28, 2014 8:42:08 GMT robby said:

Get yourself an MVP kit which comes with 2 iclear16 s, many users on this forum, widely available for about £25. Great battery life and great atomizers

That would have been my recommendation also . . . plus you can use it as a Passthrough while it's charging 1vaper123.

Good price here for them although this kit contains an Iclear30s:

myepack.co.uk/itaste-mvp-v2-0.html

A review on the device itself:

[DiscoDes]

Jun 28, 2014 12:49:16 GMT robby said:

Jun 28, 2014 12:02:24 GMT 1vaper123 said:

Hi Robby. I do long slow vapes. 4-6 seconds into the mouth and then enhale into my lungs all though I have noticed I have a habit of sometimes opening my mouth momentarily after a couple of seconds then doing a bout a 4 second vape from there. I find I get more vapor that way but could this contribute to condensation in the clearomiser as I could be blowing vapor back down? . Just a thought

No, condensation is unavoidable it`s not usually much of a factor. You vape much the same way as the rest of us Get some new kit mate, that`s what you need, more power

Also start pressing the button half a second before you take a pull and do not release the button until half a second after you take the Ecig out of your mouth. This helps stop any juice left on the wick flooding the center tube.

[robby]

Found out something interesting the other day. I was using the MVP and thought I would try the battery voltage checker (510 cconnector type) on it expecting it to read the usual 5 volts all the way through the range with no atty connected. To my surprise it does actually change on the voltage checker so the MVP must use a different method of variable voltage than the usual PWM. Was accurate as well, even with no atty connected

[prowler]

I suffered from the same problem when I started first and found a simple beginners solution.
I bought a few of these Boge F16 Replacement Cartomizers

and two of these Boge F16 Cartomizer Tanks

and haven't looked back for vapour production.


I'm sure in the long term all the advise above will be of great use but for a short term solution I think this is the answer.
I never use anything else but carts now.