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Post by ruffdog on Jul 1, 2014 8:52:27 GMT
1st time worked until i accidentally moved the coil when prying up the silicone cap a little (jabbed tweezers in hole tooooo far... oops) then after that even with a completely new coil, could i get it to seat right, could I heck. I don't know if the center wire should actually go through the pin and then cut at the bottom? (seems to just leave one end of the coil (floating and susceptible to movement )
make coil, with wick attached.
one leg to side of grommet and the other through it.
How log should the legs be?
had one short (the side one) Long one coming out of the bottom. thread wire into center pin ? comes out the other end. then what, just clip? what holds the center leg of the coil, each time you screw battery on the pin moves as will the coil?? # heeeeeelp.
PS: Has anyone found an easy way to remove that bloody retaining ring. Ive ended up bending mine into a squishy oblong and back. doesnt look too pretty now but it was all just for practice anyway as a couple of the guys in the corner shop have been either vaping on a single ce4 for a month + without even knowing how to clean and dry burn them, or tossing them in the garbage. I've gone and said I can help now. "which I can with dry burning and full sonic clean etc" but it'd be nice to rebuild them too.
Any help muchus grattyarse.
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Post by charon on Jul 1, 2014 9:07:27 GMT
ruffdog, Are you sure the title is right?? CE4 clearomisers are not rebuildable items. When you are replacing the head, do you have to dismantle and remove the central stem/tube? Either way, on a head recoil, one leg goes outside the grommit and the other goes through and is held in place by the centre pin.
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Post by ruffdog on Jul 1, 2014 9:11:45 GMT
charonI know most people wouldn't bother with a top coil el cheapo ce4 rebuild, but the inner " I fix anything UGG person in me" was coming out. "Either way, on a head recoil, one leg goes outside the grommit and the other goes through and is held in place by the centre pin." How is it "held" in place ?
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Post by robby on Jul 1, 2014 9:16:02 GMT
charonI know most people wouldn't bother with a top coil el cheapo ce4 rebuild, but the inner " I fix anything UGG person in me" was coming out. "Either way, on a head recoil, one leg goes outside the grommit and the other goes through and is held in place by the centre pin." How is it "held" in place ? It`s held by the pressure from the centre pin, then snip the excess off
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Post by charon on Jul 1, 2014 9:20:52 GMT
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Post by ruffdog on Jul 1, 2014 9:29:26 GMT
charon I hear yah, I do. I have other attys anyway but thought I'd try as on the original starter (blister pack) it did actually say "rebuildable" yeah right. robby is it just the springiness of the wire in the center tube that holds it then? just seems every time you would screw the battery on, the pin which has a spring in it would cause the center leg from the coil to go up and down. YET, when you take apart a ce4 both legs are about the same lengh and quite short at that. if i were to try and rebuild the same as it was I don't see how one would be ever able to line up the wire with the center pin tube. I've watched a youtube vid of this being done and he does seem to just whack the pin in there , no snipping or anything. i just don't see how that could be stable with one end of the coil effectively floating.
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Post by robby on Jul 1, 2014 9:32:48 GMT
The grommet should be rubber (probably white) and the centre pin should be a "firm" fit You dont have a pic do you mate?
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Post by ruffdog on Jul 1, 2014 9:36:22 GMT
robby2 sec mate and i will take it to bits and show you.
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Post by robby on Jul 1, 2014 9:43:31 GMT
Does the pin through the centre (lowest pic) go through a rubber grommet?
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Post by ruffdog on Jul 1, 2014 9:47:00 GMT
robby it does indeed. through the rubber / silicone grommet above it the pin is also hollow. note, the rubber grommet will only go in through the top of the chimney. not through the bottom as there is a lip on the inside of the chimney which stops it going too far down.
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Post by sonicflowjoe on Jul 1, 2014 9:57:45 GMT
ruffdog sounds like you're trying to thread one of the legs actually through the pin. You don't need to do this. Just thread through the grommet (one through the centre of grommet, one to the side, touching the outer body) Then push the pin into place so it holds the wire firmly in place against the inside of grommet. Not sure I've explained that very well. Let me know if you don't understand and I'll try again, lol
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Post by robby on Jul 1, 2014 9:58:03 GMT
So when you rebuild your coil and put it in it should end up coming through the bottom on either side of the grommet, one inside the hole and one outside. It`s been a while since I did one of these, but I think you trim one side of the coil (the outside leg) just where it comes through the top grommet. You may have to prejudge it. The other side should be through the centre pin. There is noemally something rubber to hold it there. Pull gently on the centre wire till you judge the wire to be straight and trim it off. I remember when I did one of these a loooong time ago it seemed strange that it looked possible that it could short out, but in practise it never actually did.
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Post by DiscoDes on Jul 1, 2014 10:05:37 GMT
These are bu**ers to recoil and hardly worth it, very difficult to isolate one side of the coil from the inside of the tube, they are "short city" for £2 each just not worth it IMO. Get some RGM2's from fastech for under £2 each, glass tank and easy to recoil protank heads and save your self the effort.
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Post by sonicflowjoe on Jul 1, 2014 10:17:37 GMT
Seems my advice might be a bit off. I only have experience of rebuilding kanger style bottom coils.
Probably best to this kind of thing that are straight forward but I can see the attraction / challenge in trying to make something work again rather than binning it.
I stopped bothering with ce4's after vaping a few months but still got all the ones I bought hanging about just incase...
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