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Post by Twisty on Jul 18, 2014 23:45:13 GMT
Hi all. It's been over 3 months since I stopped the analogues I still cant believe I've done it , I used to love smoking ... now when I have the occasional cigarette I just hate it. Anyway , I experimented with different nic. strenghts ( anything between 6-16mg ) but settled for 8mg and that's what I've been vaping for 2 and a half months. First month I vaped 4ml. / day , but in the last few weeks I easily go through 6-7ml. / day. I havent had a smooth ride with it , had two horrible colds / "quitters flu" that lasted about 10 days each , my kit failed me a couple of times but fingers crossed , Im all settled now. Im a bit worried I am vaping too much though ... I get more headaches than usual ( probably not drinking enough water? ) and rapid heart beats so Im just a bit concerned. Any advice, please?
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Post by sammy13 on Jul 18, 2014 23:59:01 GMT
8mg is extremely low. The average ciggie actually contains approx. 9mg of nicotine. The amount you see on the packet is what they presume you absorb into the blood stream.
I think we all vape different amounts, but if you feel you are vaping too much because you are not getting the hit, or if you are sometimes not able to vape , because of circumstances yet you need it I would suggest using a higher mg liquid.
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Post by xs2man on Jul 19, 2014 0:06:25 GMT
Yeah, if you are vaping because you feel you need to, then up the nic a little at a time, until you settle into an amount you are happy to vape per day.
I have been doing it for a year, and I'm still on 14 just now, although tonight I just mixed up 80ml at 12mg. Only a few months back I was on 18 still.
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Post by enjay on Jul 19, 2014 0:11:18 GMT
Another one saying the same, I would be up at 18 - 24mg to start with, you have to also remember that cigs are purely designed as a nicotine delivery system, that's their job whereas with vaping you don't absorb as much so a higher nic strength is usually required to keep things on an even plain.
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Post by VapingBad on Jul 19, 2014 0:44:21 GMT
As said above the nic level you are vaping is low unless you are using a fog machine. IMO the most important thing is to get comfy/stable without stinkies. At 8 mg you need to vape for over half an hour to get the nic u would have got from a fag IIRC (I can find the study let me know and will dig it out, it was cigalikes vs fags). IIWY use more nic to get comfy off the fags, than reduce the nic if you want to (nic not any more unhealthy than caffeine) and cut it out completely if you feel you need to. You are doing so well keeping off the fags on 8 mg, I vape 9 ml of 10 mg a day I got down to zero nic for a while, but after 2 years vaping I still get tempted to smoke and don't as what I vape is better.
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Post by Twisty on Jul 19, 2014 1:02:10 GMT
Hi all , thank you so much for your advice. I experimented with 16mg nic. and found it so strong , I just couldnt vape it . Anything over 12mg. is just far too strong for me , I've tried different vendors with different strengths and I just didnt enjoy it ... Maybe that explains the chain-vaping.
I feel Im not getting enough nic. but not sure where to go from here ...
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Post by xs2man on Jul 19, 2014 1:06:46 GMT
That's difficult then. The problem is you don't want to have to spend a fortune on different ratios to find what works, but saying that, doing it now could help sort you out. This is where mixing your own helps.
If you can manage 12mg, then try for 12mg. At least it's a start. Also try higher VG content, as that might take the sting out the throat hit for you. The downside would be slightly less flavour, but more vapour. I dropped the VG when I started dripping for exactly that reason. Now most of my mixes are higher VG incase I fancy dripping them.
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Post by sammy13 on Jul 19, 2014 1:36:18 GMT
Hi all , thank you so much for your advice. I experimented with 16mg nic. and found it so strong , I just couldnt vape it . Anything over 12mg. is just far too strong for me , I've tried different vendors with different strengths and I just didnt enjoy it ... Maybe that explains the chain-vaping. I feel Im not getting enough nic. but not sure where to go from here ... If you try vg heavy juices or at least 50/50 you may notice that you can up the nicotine without it been too strong.
What do I mean, if I use eliquid that is 18mg 70/30 it hits me in the back of the throat and seems too strong. If I use exactly the same eliquid in 18mg but 50/50 it is fine.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2014 1:51:28 GMT
What Ohm coil and delivery device are you using... i have used 24mg for almost 3 years now on 2.2ohm cartos, i switched to drippers recently on a 1.5 to 1.7 coil and it nearly blew my head off, i had a nic rush after about 4 drags... i had to drop down to 16mg, when i use my carts again i have to go back to 24mg as 16 is then too weak... how it works out like that i have no idea... 24mg is 24 mg in any device ....lol
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Post by teethcv on Jul 19, 2014 3:11:40 GMT
I vape 10mls of 18mg some days it's all good it's normal depends on the day and mood like now I been at work for 16 hours and I'm capeing like a train ps 8 more hours till I'm done lol
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Post by wil7985 on Jul 19, 2014 4:30:09 GMT
I vape about 5mls of 1.8 nic a day, was a smoker of roll-ups for 40 odd years. This seems to suit me fine. I would maybe up the nic and drink more water, saying that what do I know.
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Post by PinkyPuff on Jul 19, 2014 5:18:41 GMT
I vape 2-2.5 ml a day at 18 mg.Think all my juices are 70/30.Don't forget drink plenty of water 1.5-2L a day to avoid headaches.
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Post by Perpetua on Jul 19, 2014 6:47:48 GMT
Have a couple of strengths on the go perhaps Twisty? 12mg when you feel the need for a bit more nicotine . . . then your lower strength for when you don't. Generally I use 5-10ml in a day, at home a low strength, it's the hand to mouth action as much as anything then for me. And keep well hydrated . . . . .
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Post by davetherayon on Jul 19, 2014 7:32:09 GMT
Plenty of water is good. One of the signs of light dehydration is a headache. Keep a jug of water, glass and some juice concentrate (drinkable that is, not ejuice conc ) to hand, and just fill it up when you feel a bit thirsty.
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Post by hijack on Jul 19, 2014 9:00:09 GMT
I used to vape 18mg That had a 80/20 pg/vg but when I tried dripping it was way to harsh on my throat. ATM I use a 50/50 mix of 12mg which is better when using a dripper but I can use in my clearo's without it seeming to weak.
1xPallmall blue has .6mg of nic so a packet of 20 has 12mg and a bottle of 12mg has 12mg per ml.
So why do we vape much more nic than when we smoked? Smoke particles are much smaller than vapour particles, and are absorbed in the lungs much easier than the larger vapour particles. More vapour absorption takes place im the mouth than in the lungs. Its these reasons that more nic is needed when vaping to get the same nic into the body as smoking.
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