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Post by reddragon on Aug 15, 2014 15:10:48 GMT
I have an evod tank with whatever wick that comes with. In my newbie trial and errorness I managed to pull the wick out of the coil so after watching some you tube videos I decided to try and rewick the coil with cotton wool. I am pleased to say it worked great and I don’t know if it is just the juice (my first try of minty the toff from tjuice) but the flavour and smoothness of the throat hit is the best yet. So my question is, does the wick material make a difference to the flavour etc, should I expect a better vape with other juices when using the cotton wick? Thanks Red PS I think I am in love with Minty the toff
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Post by leo on Aug 15, 2014 15:18:23 GMT
Yes, moving from silica to cotton you will notice a big improvement in flavour. some people in these parts rate rayon, and there is some fancy Japanese cotton that's supposed to be the dogs danglies... but the biggest difference will be the move from silica to cotton... get 'em all changed over!!!
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Post by ionian on Aug 15, 2014 15:25:19 GMT
The flavor doesn't come from the wick itself, but from the juice you are vaping. Theoretically, the more juice that is vaporized, the better the flavor hit. It's all down to how much juice the wicking material holds, and how quickly it absorbs juice. Cotton wool holds more juice than silica, and it absorbs very quickly, so it replaces the juice that's been vaporized much quicker than silica.
Rayon is very similar to cotton, but the individual strands all lay the same way (as opposed to the higgledy-piggledy nature of cotton) so it can absorb juice even faster.
For me, cotton gives a much better vape than silica and I rarely use anything else these days.
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Post by archiecat on Aug 15, 2014 15:26:48 GMT
I moved to cotton a couple of months ago,,,for me it was not so much about flavour,,,, more about the idea, however stupid, of particals of silica getting into my lungs,,,
Having said that I do think cotton gives a better vape.
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Post by VapingBad on Aug 15, 2014 15:36:52 GMT
^ what they said ^ and some cotton's do add a little flavour of their own due to the processing & treatments used in production, it's a good idea to boil yarns before use (not cotton wool though). Cheap way to start is a bag of Organic (less nasty pesticides) cotton wool balls < £1.50, I got mine from Willkos baby dept, a couple of vendors are doing a few sheets of Japanese cotton for a pound which would be even better if your putting in an order already. I am use rayon myself, haven't tried the Japanese cotton yet and hate the flavour with silica.
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Post by reddragon on Aug 15, 2014 16:12:10 GMT
Thanks all, I thought it was just me / the juice, but it seems it does improve. Well that’s my job tomorrow, get them all changed over
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Post by igual on Aug 15, 2014 16:24:24 GMT
As others have said I use cotton and am just trying rayon at the moment. Silica to me gives a harsh taste to any juice. Really don't like it. If I can rewick any attlmizier with cotton/rayon I will even new manger heads get rewicked before use. Make sure to change your wick when you change juice also do not dry burn cotton.
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Post by Super-Shiny on Aug 15, 2014 16:42:56 GMT
Rayon is very similar to cotton, but the individual strands all lay the same way (as opposed to the higgledy-piggledy nature of cotton) so it can absorb juice even faster. Strange as i find cotton wool wicks a lot faster then rayon (this is based on small areas of juice, i.e Kanger mini protanks/emows/aerotank etc where there is very little space for juice to sit)
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Post by thatguy on Aug 15, 2014 17:34:46 GMT
It takes trial and error to find the optimum capillary action in wicks. The amount absorbed into walls of microscopic channels(i'e the material used) will affect the speed of liquid movement, as will the temperature differential (coil and power)along the wick. In theory, wicks will tend to pull from cool to hot, so finding the right balance of wicking, coiling and power will all effect how much liquid is available near the coil.
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Post by sammy13 on Aug 15, 2014 17:53:16 GMT
Yes especially with dessert flavours I would say cotton makes everything taste better. Unfortunately I rewicked all with cotton then found I could not use it. I had a dry tickly cough and a max of an hours sleep a night for months, I also got lumps on my throat. I had rewicked all with cotton, so threw all that out and rewicked all again with silica, within a few weeks I was better. Just to be sure I rewicked a few back with cotton, and within 2 days I was bad again.
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Post by Super-Shiny on Aug 15, 2014 17:54:04 GMT
It takes trial and error to find the optimum capillary action in wicks. The amount absorbed into walls of microscopic channels(i'e the material used) will affect the speed of liquid movement, as will the temperature differential (coil and power)along the wick. In theory, wicks will tend to pull from cool to hot, so finding the right balance of wicking, coiling and power will all effect how much liquid is available near the coil. Very true, i have done masses of trial and errors with Rayon and it deffo does not like small spaces, with the large spaces it works great. I myself will stick to basic organic cotton wool, as they say if it works don't fix it
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Post by ionian on Aug 15, 2014 19:15:35 GMT
Rayon is very similar to cotton, but the individual strands all lay the same way (as opposed to the higgledy-piggledy nature of cotton) so it can absorb juice even faster. Strange as i find cotton wool wicks a lot faster then rayon (this is based on small areas of juice, i.e Kanger mini protanks/emows/aerotank etc where there is very little space for juice to sit) I'm going by what I've read - to be honest, I've not tried Rayon myself. I love my cotton too much to change!
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Post by chykensa on Aug 15, 2014 19:38:17 GMT
Interesting to read what others feel about the CW/rayon thang - I'm still experimenting with rayon, but I have to say that I'm underwhelmed with its performance at the moment. I have been using CW for quite a few months, and whilst it doesn't last that long, it's only a minute's work to replace a wick after a quick dry burn. Rayon gives me loads more dryhits in my Kayfun variants, although it is performing well in my Taifun. I think it quite possible that there will be a bag of 15' of rayon in the classies before too long, unused as I was kindly given some rayon to play with a few days ago! reddragon - persist with the CW; as everyone else has said, the difference from the scratchy bitter taste of silica to the warm (and to me unflavoured) taste of CW is amazing!
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Post by Super-Shiny on Aug 15, 2014 19:41:54 GMT
Rayon gives me loads more dryhits That's the problem i have with Rayon, too many dry hits for my liking, CW i get none whatsoever...again this only happens with small juice wells, it works fine with the Kanger Mega as that has a large juice well.
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Post by erik514 on Aug 15, 2014 20:01:18 GMT
I really think its down to your own personal taste. Ive not tried rayon yet but have used silica cotton and mesh in different atomisers. For my own taste I find creamy rich flavours are much better with silica, they are fuller somehow. I tried to get on with cotton for a while but its really not for me. No idea why but I find the flavour is more muted. It could be my bad coils to blame but its not for me. I like mesh for fruit flavours. A nice green apple or strawberry in a genesis atomiser is great.
At the end of the day its all about what works for you whether its mesh, silica, rayon, cotton or whatever comes next.
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