Rose v2 clone

[iLardyboy]

Nov 2, 2014 22:13:23 GMT @windows said:

Ive just had a look at one of my spare bases iLardyboy and the airhole ends up in line with the fat part of the plastic so its obviously not that causing your probs.
Have you checked that both the hole in the plastic and the one on the outside has been drilled out correctly.

They look ok mate, though I wouldn't be sure about it.

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Nov 2, 2014 22:17:49 GMT iLardyboy said:

Nov 2, 2014 22:13:23 GMT @windows said:

Ive just had a look at one of my spare bases iLardyboy and the airhole ends up in line with the fat part of the plastic so its obviously not that causing your probs.
Have you checked that both the hole in the plastic and the one on the outside has been drilled out correctly.

They look ok mate, though I wouldn't be sure about it.

Have you tried a different set up. Ive found .27 wire, 9 wraps round a 2mm bit to be my perfect setup for the rose. Might not be yours but i get loads of flavour and vapour.

[Greg]

Just nip the base on hand tight without using the bar then the fat plastic won't block the airhole, check with the paperclip then vape and see if it improves. Worth a try and correct alignment definitely made a difference for me.

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Just had an eureka moment. Have you checked that the flat disc that screws to the 510 pin has not unscrewed itself a bit blocking the gap between it and the plastic. Just a thought.

[ciderhead]

@windows I just checked mine, lambo version and its not the plastic that covers the airflow channel its the screw that connects the plastic to the positive pin, as the screw is set well back it should not affect the airflow, well it does not on my version, other versions could be different i suppose.

[iLardyboy]

Just tested the airflow by screwing the base on without getting as far as the fat delrin piece. The airflow is definitely restricted when properly screwed together. I'm now getting more vapour and flavour, but can't screw the base on properly. This doesn't seem right to me, anyone else with a Pallas Rose having the same issue and have a fix? I honestly don't see how it can be fixed.

[ciderhead]

iLardyboy if it is the raised plastic base that covers the channel to the airflow can you not take the screw out that holds it to the positive post and spin the plastic so it clears the airflow channel and then drill a new hole for the screw to connect to the positive post, only guessing because i don't have your version.

[Ripshod]

May be easier to drill a new air hole in the base part, 180^o from where it is now.

[iLardyboy]

I wouldn't be confident doing any drilling, for sure I would wreck something. I just don't think I'm getting the best out of this atty. Everyone talks about how good it is, but whatever I'm doing wrong I just don't see it yet. My Kayfun is still a better vape, everyone else says the Rose beats the Kayfun hands down.

[Ripshod]

Just done the air hole test on both of mine, one of them did seem a bit restricted side by side. Funnily the one with the better airflow had the plastic 'blocking' the air hole, so I really don't think that's the cause.

The one that was restricted I just lifted the coil 1mm and double checked the way the wick was set up and that's fine now. Really glad this thread came up

[Greg]

Nov 3, 2014 16:03:21 GMT Ripshod said:

Just done the air hole test on both of mine, one of them did seem a bit restricted side by side. Funnily the one with the better airflow had the plastic 'blocking' the air hole, so I really don't think that's the cause.

The one that was restricted I just lifted the coil 1mm and double checked the way the wick was set up and that's fine now. Really glad this thread came up

Coil height can definitely restrict airflow if it's too low.

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Nov 3, 2014 0:07:45 GMT ciderhead said:

@windows I just checked mine, lambo version and its not the plastic that covers the airflow channel its the screw that connects the plastic to the positive pin, as the screw is set well back it should not affect the airflow, well it does not on my version, other versions could be different i suppose.

I think they all must be different. I dont think they have paid to much attention to where the outside airhole is in relation to where they started the threading on the base.
I marked the one i checked with a pen and the airhole def lines up with the fat part of the plastic.

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Nov 3, 2014 13:30:15 GMT iLardyboy said:

I wouldn't be confident doing any drilling, for sure I would wreck something. I just don't think I'm getting the best out of this atty. Everyone talks about how good it is, but whatever I'm doing wrong I just don't see it yet. My Kayfun is still a better vape, everyone else says the Rose beats the Kayfun hands down.

Just a little test you could try. Unscrew the flat disc from the 510 and the put it back together without it and see if the airflow seems looser.

[Greg]

I think the flat fat plastic bit is the same height or maybe marginally shorter than the head of the Phillips headed screw so that both bottom out on the metal 510 disc. If the fat plastic part is aligned with the outer airhole I can't see how it wouldn't restrict airflow.

@windows I think you said it was your spare base you checked and it was blocked by the fat plastic, how about the atties you are using can you poke a straightened paperclip in there or are they blocked, if it's the Philips head blocking this would likely cause less of a restriction given width in comparison to the fat plastic bit.

iLardyboy a potential fix if the fat plastic bit is the problem would to modify the plastic bit. Fir the base as normal and tighten it right up with the bar. Them poke a fine tipped pen or pencil through the airhole to mark which part of the fat plastic is causing the obstruction. Take the base off and use a needle file to file a groove in the fat plastic bit where your pencil mark is
I can't see a down side to filing a slot as above but maybe others can ?

Just a thought and I'm no Rose expert, just relaying my experience with it in an effort to get yours working as expected.

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Nov 3, 2014 21:30:42 GMT Greg said:

I think the flat fat plastic bit is the same height or maybe marginally shorter than the head of the Phillips headed screw so that both bottom out on the metal 510 disc. If the fat plastic part is aligned with the outer airhole I can't see how it wouldn't restrict airflow.

@windows I think you said it was your spare base you checked and it was blocked by the fat plastic, how about the atties you are using can you poke a straightened paperclip in there or are they blocked, if it's the Philips head blocking this would likely cause less of a restriction given width in comparison to the fat plastic bit.

iLardyboy a potential fix if the fat plastic bit is the problem would to modify the plastic bit. Fir the base as normal and tighten it right up with the bar. Them poke a fine tipped pen or pencil through the airhole to mark which part of the fat plastic is causing the obstruction. Take the base off and use a needle file to file a groove in the fat plastic bit where your pencil mark is
I can't see a down side to filing a slot as above but maybe others can ?

Just a thought and I'm no Rose expert, just relaying my experience with it in an effort to get yours working as expected.

Its not blocked, airflow is fine. Just pointing out that its in line with the hole.
To be honest i dont really think that the plastic has any effect on the airflow. I think iLardyboy has something else that is causing his probs, dont know what it is though.