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Post by jeffc on Dec 1, 2014 14:41:17 GMT
Hi Peeps here it is :
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Post by Tom on Dec 1, 2014 14:43:05 GMT
third place this has appeared. prob needs its own thread though
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Post by Dan on Dec 1, 2014 15:48:30 GMT
Anyone else unimpressed? I know it will sell well but there are also a lot of Kayfun users who won't be buying one. I mean, how exactly is it innovative to have to remove bits to adjust the airflow? They've massively over engineered it to slow the cloners down and they've lost touch of what's important
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Post by Tom on Dec 1, 2014 16:04:16 GMT
Anyone else unimpressed? I know it will sell well but there are also a lot of Kayfun users who won't be buying one. I mean, how exactly is it innovative to have to remove bits to adjust the airflow? They've massively over engineered it to slow the cloners down and they've lost touch of what's important My current impressions are similar to yours Dan. I can't help but think that the over-engineering has to be to hold off the clones. Closing off the juice flow so you can top fill is nice, but you could do this before by just putting your finger on the air hole. If it vapes great then all it has really accomplished is a better variety of airflow options, albeit through a strange way of adjusting it. I don't think the fact you do it that way is a massive problem unless you're one who like to change up your airflow a lot. The straight connections to devices is pretty cool. It will be nice to have a straight connection to the p3 but it will be such a long combo anyway you aren't really gaining that much. Im a big kayfun fan and i do want one. I won't be in a rush to grab one though
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Post by gill2009 on Dec 1, 2014 16:12:41 GMT
Anyone else unimpressed? I know it will sell well but there are also a lot of Kayfun users who won't be buying one. I mean, how exactly is it innovative to have to remove bits to adjust the airflow? They've massively over engineered it to slow the cloners down and they've lost touch of what's important My current impressions are similar to yours Dan. I can't help but think that the over-engineering has to be to hold off the clones. Closing off the juice flow so you can top fill is nice, but you could do this before by just putting your finger on the air hole. If it vapes great then all it has really accomplished is a better variety of airflow options, albeit through a strange way of adjusting it. I don't think the fact you do it that way is a massive problem unless you're one who like to change up your airflow a lot. The straight connections to devices is pretty cool. It will be nice to have a straight connection to the p3 but it will be such a long combo anyway you aren't really gaining that much. Im a big kayfun fan and i do want one. I won't be in a rush to grab one though Not for at least 6 months anyway
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Post by Dan on Dec 1, 2014 16:55:33 GMT
My current impressions are similar to yours Dan. I can't help but think that the over-engineering has to be to hold off the clones. Closing off the juice flow so you can top fill is nice, but you could do this before by just putting your finger on the air hole. If it vapes great then all it has really accomplished is a better variety of airflow options, albeit through a strange way of adjusting it. I don't think the fact you do it that way is a massive problem unless you're one who like to change up your airflow a lot. The straight connections to devices is pretty cool. It will be nice to have a straight connection to the p3 but it will be such a long combo anyway you aren't really gaining that much. Im a big kayfun fan and i do want one. I won't be in a rush to grab one though Not for at least 6 months anyway Mark seemed to be underwhelmed by the vape to be fair. How many times did he say that it vapes like a kayfun? He obviously doesn't rate it as an honest upgrade over the previous generation. I was constantly messing with the airflow with my 3.1s and i honestly thought they'd follow the trend of an exterior ring.. simple on the go adjustment. Heck they could have integrated it with the juice control. In my eyes they're playing catchup, much like Provape did with the Provari. Squape was replaced by the Reloaded, Eden released the V2. Both new editions made improvements on the usability and overall vape. The only thing the V4 has improved on is the ease of filling.. They've been very clever though, with the v4 not being compatible with current accessories. Who's going to bet against a nano tank and chimney being the best part of £50?! They said the Rose was un-cloneable.. Won't be long until China get their claws into the new design.. you never know, they may even figure out a way of sorting the airflow lol
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Post by Bob on Dec 1, 2014 19:50:56 GMT
The only thing I like about it is the ability to top fill, and the innovative juice flow system but as Dan says having to remove the 510 screw to get to the airflow screw to make adjustments is just stupid, an AFC should be accessible without having to take the atty off the mod, this is the same complaint that people have about the Erlkoenigin, and is also just as bad with the SquapeR but at least with the latter you only have to loosen it from the mod, there has also been talk of it costing $200 (c£130) so a lot of normal people will just not bother.
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Post by Greg on Dec 1, 2014 19:56:42 GMT
Overpriced and over complicated for me. It's also a terrible bulbous shape !
Generally I think the days of £100 atties have had their day regardless of whether you can afford them or not.
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Post by blakey on Dec 1, 2014 20:09:45 GMT
The only reason I would get one would be for the P3 connectivity but it appears that's going to be extra £s It is an improvement but not enough of an improvement to warrant purchasing. It will not outperform my Roses just as the current kayfuns don't and it will not outperform my squapes. I do actually think it looks quite nice though- subjective I know If they clone it then I may give it a go but for once I'm gonna sit back and let everyone else fill their boots. Perpetua probably has ambulances dispatched to me already
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Post by Greg on Dec 1, 2014 20:13:38 GMT
The only reason I would get one would be for the P3 connectivity but it appears that's going to be extra £s It is an improvement but not enough of an improvement to warrant purchasing. It will not outperform my Roses just as the current kayfuns don't and it will not outperform my squapes. I do actually think it looks quite nice though- subjective I know If they clone it then I may give it a go but for once I'm gonna sit back and let everyone else fill their boots. Perpetua probably has ambulances dispatched to me already Bold words indeed blakey, my money is on you buckling once they hit the shelves
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Post by blakey on Dec 1, 2014 20:15:57 GMT
The only reason I would get one would be for the P3 connectivity but it appears that's going to be extra £s It is an improvement but not enough of an improvement to warrant purchasing. It will not outperform my Roses just as the current kayfuns don't and it will not outperform my squapes. I do actually think it looks quite nice though- subjective I know If they clone it then I may give it a go but for once I'm gonna sit back and let everyone else fill their boots. Perpetua probably has ambulances dispatched to me already Bold words indeed blakey, my money is on you buckling once they hit the shelves Nope, not this time- well happy with dna40 temp control, more of them could well be heading my way
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Post by Perpetua on Dec 1, 2014 20:17:19 GMT
Perpetua probably has ambulances dispatched to me already . . . . on it's way Blakey!
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Post by blakey on Dec 1, 2014 20:22:52 GMT
Perpetua probably has ambulances dispatched to me already . . . . on it's way Blakey! .
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Post by Tom on Dec 1, 2014 21:11:19 GMT
Another one has dropped. jeffc shall we rename this thread video reviews rather than start a new thread for every reviewer? obviously your thread so up to you but thought it might save multi-threading.
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Post by chrisjw on Dec 1, 2014 21:19:54 GMT
Must say, I'm a big Kayfun lover, but the more I see of this V4, the less I'm impressed.........& for that reason..............................I'm out..................................................for now.... "Life...........is just a bowl of tricks!!!!!!"
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